Tuesday, December 15, 2009

Proposal: Aside from wishes, the Djinni does nothing, so…

Failed 7-7-6. Half or fewer votes for.—alethiophile

Adminned at 17 Dec 2009 02:31:10 UTC

Add a rule, “Possession”:

As a weekly action, provided their power is greater than one, the Djinni may take any action as defined by the dynastic rules for a player of their choice, with the sole exception of making a wish. Any effects on gamestate are applied as if that player had taken the action. The Djinni must then make a post to the blog stating the action taken, and by what player.

If at least half the EVCs on this proposal contain the phrase “More often, please” then replace “weekly” in the above rule with “daily”.
If at least half the EVCs on this proposal contain the phrase “Self-wishing”  then remove the text “, with the sole exception of making a wish” from the above rule.

A traditional Djinn power.
Core rules are blocked to prevent potential abuse.

Comments

tecslicer:

12-15-2009 02:43:11 UTC

Who is the “their power” the player or the Djinn?

Ienpw III:

12-15-2009 02:46:50 UTC

That’s more ambiguous than I intended. If it’s unclear to others I’ll repropose.

tecslicer:

12-15-2009 02:55:15 UTC

Just asking, because the Djinn can have no power.

Ienpw III:

12-15-2009 02:56:40 UTC

It was intended to refer to the Djinni.

tecslicer:

12-15-2009 03:01:13 UTC

for either way, I like it.

Klisz:

12-15-2009 03:37:07 UTC

imperial

Klisz:

12-15-2009 03:46:01 UTC

CoV against  because of the word “player”. You mean “adventurer”.

alethiophile:

12-15-2009 04:12:24 UTC

against
I like the idea, but there would have to be a way to change the Djinni’s power to finite; currently, wishes can’t do that.

Klisz:

12-15-2009 04:40:37 UTC

@alethiophile: If he’s in the Lamp, it’s 0.

Scaramouche:

12-15-2009 05:35:51 UTC

against I think his problem is the ambiguity of “greater than one” and how it relates to a not-really-a-number like infinity.

alethiophile:

12-15-2009 05:44:44 UTC

@Darth: Oh, that’s true. /me facepalms.

CoV:  for

Also, presumably you could wish for the Djinni to possess someone. Hmmm… Will this be allowed?

alethiophile:

12-15-2009 05:45:49 UTC

@scaramouche: I think we can safely assume that infinity is greater than one. :P

Bucky:

12-15-2009 07:10:20 UTC

Strong imperial

Josh:

12-15-2009 07:26:28 UTC

imperial

Kevan:

12-15-2009 09:10:20 UTC

imperial

Ornithopter:

12-15-2009 09:50:44 UTC

imperial
The use of “player” instead of “Adventurer” means the Djinni can possess himself and perform an extra weekly (or daily) action. Of course, the Djinni currently has no daily or weekly actions to take.

SingularByte:

12-15-2009 10:58:32 UTC

imperial

Darknight:

12-15-2009 12:58:50 UTC

imperial

Oze:

12-15-2009 15:51:55 UTC

imperial

Klisz:

12-15-2009 16:54:31 UTC

CoV imperial  per Ornithopter.

Hix:

12-15-2009 17:11:29 UTC

against

NoOneImportant:

12-15-2009 17:12:19 UTC

against

I might vote For on a reworded version.

TrumanCapote:

12-15-2009 17:54:47 UTC

against

Ienpw III:

12-15-2009 20:40:06 UTC

There is now a reworded fix. Vote FOR both if you like the fix, as it does nothing if this fails.

Wakukee:

12-15-2009 21:28:53 UTC

imperial

Ienpw III:

12-15-2009 23:01:11 UTC

Failing 3-5, but NoOneImportant and Darth Cliche may choose to vote FOR, as there’s now a fix.
There are 8 unresolved DEFs on this proposal.
Quorum is 13.

NoOneImportant:

12-15-2009 23:04:37 UTC

I’ll change my vote if it looks like the Fix is likely to pass.

Ienpw III:

12-15-2009 23:45:25 UTC

It’s passing 6-1

NoOneImportant:

12-15-2009 23:47:27 UTC

I guess that’s OK… although 3 more against votes would sink it…

CoV for

Klisz:

12-16-2009 01:15:01 UTC

CoV for  *sigh*

Ienpw III:

12-16-2009 01:18:50 UTC

As Wakukee is not voting, everyone voting DEG should change votes (but only if you vote FOR).

digibomber:

12-16-2009 05:48:33 UTC

against

Kevan:

12-16-2009 08:15:43 UTC

against CoV.

Ornithopter:

12-16-2009 10:45:20 UTC

for CoV
Because a proposal 3 spaces down the queue looks like it might pass, which is a weird position to have to take.

spikebrennan:

12-16-2009 15:56:22 UTC

against

ais523:

12-16-2009 16:06:38 UTC

against

NoOneImportant:

12-16-2009 19:32:38 UTC

Dear god… can anyone code up an auto-vote-counting script? ;)

Ornithopter:

12-16-2009 20:36:07 UTC

I can’t, but I can count the votes, so someone else won’t have to when this times out.

FOR - 6
alethiophile
Darth Cliche
Ienpw III(proposer)
NoOneImportant
Ornithopter
tecslicer

AGAINST - 7
ais523
digibomber
Hix
Kevan
Scaramouche
spikebrennan
Truman Capote

DEF (no vote) - 6
Bucky
Darknight
Josh
Oze
SingularByte
Wakukee

NO VOTE - 5
Apathetic Lizardman
Dustin
Falkuon
Nausved
Qwazukee

Nausved:

12-16-2009 23:04:14 UTC

for