I unidled just to vote   this.

Because it creates the weird social pressure of the Djinni being expected to veto proposals that have been self-killed, or which are tanking.

And because it rewards bad proposals. If a player submits a flawed or unpopular proposal, part of the cost of that is that they lose a proposal slot for 48 hours. But if a player makes a terrible proposal, to the point where the Djinni vetoes it, then they get their slot back straight away. Which potentially gives the Djinni a reason not to veto a truly terrible proposal, which seems like a bad idea.

per Kevan, who succinctly states the argument for my position

Getting vetoed should never be good for the person being vetoed. 

It also screws up the queue: things can appear, get vetoed, and disappear before people ever see/have a chance to comment on them.  As a fair number of players use the automatically generated queue to keep track of what’s going on, that’s a problem.

I use sparrowscript and RSS to keep track of BlogNomic; it’s really hard to make sure you see everything otherwise. (It’s only after I found that was possible that I really started playing BlogNomic; it’s hard to play nomic unless you can keep track of everything that’s going on, email nomics are much better in that regard.)

We should try to get the Sparrowscript built directly into the ExpressionEngine template, actually - it made life much easier for me, when it came in. (It’s this, for anyone who hasn’t seen it.)

Ah, thanks for the URL; I tried to find it, but couldn’t.

Greasemonkey slows down my computer too much.

COV

It doesn’t reward them; the people are no better off than if they’d not been vetoed. Also, the Djinni doesn’t have to veto s/ks. I know I won’t be doing so.

Also, Excalabur: you were the one complaining this had been taken out a while ago.

Ienpw: yes, they are.  They get a proposal slot back.  Proposal slots are worth quite a lot, depending on how moribund the dynasty is.

And i’m the one that proposed to take it out.  I strongly dislike the ‘fast veto’.

I think vetoes should be rarer. I don’t think the fast veto is the problem - it’s the trigger-happy Emperor.

Totally agree with Ienpw. The concept of a veto is meant to apply immediately and finally. So long as it isn’t abused, that’s how it should be.