Sunday, April 04, 2010

Proposal: Dwarven Honor

Self-killed. -Purplebeard

Adminned at 05 Apr 2010 08:15:33 UTC

Add a new rule, named “Honor”:

Each Colonist has an amount of Honor, which is tracked in the GNDT.  New Colonists start with an Honor of 0.

 
Add a subrule to this rule, named “Legislation”:

When a Proposal is Enacted or Failed, the submitter gains 2 Honor for each vote cast in favor of the proposal in addition to the submitter’s vote.

If there is a rule entitled “Stockpile”, add a subrule to it, named “Honor”:

Whenever a Colonist adds items to the stockpile, he gains honor depending on how many of those
items were already in the stockpile, according to the table below.

         |  0  |  1  | 2-3 | 4-5 | 6-10 | 11-20 | 21-30 | 31-50 | 50+
  Food   |  30 |  20 |  10 |  5  |  3   |   2   |   2   |   1   |  1
  Wood   |  10 |  7  |  7  |  5  |  5   |   3   |   1   |   1   |  0
  Rock   |  20 |  15 |  10 |  10 |  7   |   7   |   2   |   1   |  0

Add Honor to the GNDT, and set all Colonists’ Honor to 0.

Honor should be a measure of how much good you’ve done for the community.  Nothing in this proposal about terraforming, as that’s not obviously good or bad.

posted by Tiberias at 04 Apr 2010 15:51:32 UTC Comments (17)

Comments

Keba:

04-04-2010 16:28:22 UTC

for nice idea

If I gain 4 Food by hunting (and does not have any food yet), would I get 30 Honer once, or would I get 30+20+10+10 Honer?

Keba:

04-04-2010 16:30:04 UTC

*err* I meant Honor of course.

Well, “When a Proposal is Enacted or Failed” should be “When a Proposal is Enacted” in my opinion…

SeerPenguin:

04-04-2010 16:42:02 UTC

I agree with Keba, it needs to be only for passed proposals, otherwise,  for

Tiberias:

04-04-2010 16:44:04 UTC

Keba: I initially envisioned it as 30+20+10+10, but that may not be how it’s interpreted.  If this passes, someone should probably make a proposal to add a clarification.

On failed proposals, I wanted to reward good, but not-quite-good-enough proposals as well.  There are plenty of situations where (for example) one good proposal gets self-killed in favor of a better one that does much the same thing.

Tiberias:

04-04-2010 16:46:59 UTC

On the other hand, I won’t fight changing it to only passed proposals; I was debating that point myself.

Josh: Observer he/they

04-04-2010 17:23:27 UTC

for I like it as it is, although the multiple reward should be fixed and probably the size of the rewards reduced.

Darknight: he/him

04-04-2010 19:33:42 UTC

for

Hix:

04-04-2010 21:25:57 UTC

against Just an unfun grindy race to be the first to contribute food.  Also encourages Proposal spam.

Purplebeard:

04-04-2010 21:34:34 UTC

against

Hyronious:

04-04-2010 22:09:39 UTC

against

Kevan: he/him

04-04-2010 22:11:53 UTC

against for the proposal enactment effect, which would encourage proposal spam and the queue-slowing, tactical withholding of FOR votes.

Tiberias:

04-04-2010 23:00:41 UTC

Hix: note that the stockpile starts with some of each thing, so the really high honor points aren’t available unless someone spends all of something.

Klisz:

05-04-2010 00:51:12 UTC

against

Ornithopter:

05-04-2010 03:55:19 UTC

against
Even after “Don’t mess with the voting system”. The table looks crazy unbalanced; it’ll create a game of trying to run the stockpiles out in order to be the one to put the first few supplies in.

Josh: Observer he/they

05-04-2010 08:07:38 UTC

CoV against

ais523:

05-04-2010 12:21:08 UTC

against due to massively promoting timing scams and scripting. I don’t really want to have to write a script to update the GNDT first upon this proposal passing, but if it looks like passing I might.

Tiberias:

05-04-2010 14:37:01 UTC

against s/k; to keep the queue moving