Proposal: Face the Music
Timed out (5-3)
Enacted by Hix
Adminned at 14 Sep 2007 20:55:39 UTC
[ Removing the clause that lets you submit more proposals if you’ve self-killed some. I don’t like the fact that carelessly-worded proposals can be immediately self-killed and reproposed, bloating the weblog and dividing the commentary, or that a proposal that’s getting shot down should always, always be self-killed to free up your proposal slots. ]
In Rule 1.3 (Proposals), replace “unless the Kaiju God already has 2 Proposals pending that have not been self-killed, or has already made 3 Proposals that day” with:-
unless the Kaiju God already has 2 Proposals pending, or has already made 3 Proposals that day

Comments
aaronwinborn:
if this passes, i’d note that i don’t believe a kaiju god will ever have made 3 proposals during a day under the new ruling, thus making that clause redundant.
Chivalrybean:
I agree with aaron. We can all be more careful, of course (points finger at self), but I think it will slow things down a lot more if we can’t fix a minor error easily. Being able to remoe them from the queue sooner would be a good idea.
Kevan:
Adminning self-killed proposals out of order might have some mileage now that we’ve got active proposals in the sidebar, although it would effectively allow admins to fail and repropose their own posts, at whim, which seems unfair.
(It’d still be possible to write three proposals in a day, if you self-killed the first one and an admin processed it before the end of the day.)
Speed of reproposal can be useful, but the game can run too quickly - it makes it harder to follow discussion of an idea if that discussion is split over multiple comment threads (with half of those comments being on an obsolete version of a proposal), and ultimately a faster game means more text for people to read through every day, which isn’t an ideal for everyone.
An active playerbase will always help one another out, if there are minor errors - I’d rather encourage a community spirit of fixing one another’s minor mistakes (you could have self-killed your “enace” proposal and asked if anyone was feeling generous enough to repropose it for you), than allowing one person to refine and repropose an idea all by themselves, several times, overnight.
snowballinhell7001:
Amnistar:
Kevan:
It’s actually six proposals or more per person, in theory, if the back end of the proposal is dragging at 48 hours or beyond. Chivalrybean had four proposals in the queue this morning - two self-killed, and two put forward the next day.
Hix:
Darknight:
aaronwinborn:
maybe a rule could be created to remove s/k proposals out of order when the proposal doesn’t belong to the admin doing the out-of-order removal
Josh: