Tuesday, January 27, 2009

Proposal: Landing a Jump

Self-Killed
-Amnistar

Adminned at 28 Jan 2009 09:53:57 UTC

Amend Cosmology by inserting the following three underlined rules, using the surrounding, non-underlined text as a guideline for placement in the Ruleset:

Cosmology

Not AWL STAF MEMBARS WER HARE have originated in our home planet. In fact, many of them have come from distant locations. There is a GNDT column that shall track the current “Station” in which a Member of the Staff is residing. Staff Members may not change their Station except in ways provided for in the Ruleset. Because interstellar travel is too costly, the values of Station are limited to any one planet or moon located within the Solar System only, and to the special value “Jump”. If at any time, a Staff Member’s Station is set to an invalid value, that Staffer shall change it to “Jump” instead. A Member of the Staff currently in Jump is said to be Translocating.

[...]

Solar Map

There exists a wiki document known as “Solar Map” which lists the possible routes between two stations. Two Stations are considered Adjacent in the Solar Map if one of them appears right before the other one. As a weekly action, a Member of the Staff may add a Station to the Solar Maps. A Station may be added even if it already appears in the Solar Map, as long as this doesn’t cause a Station to be Adjacent to itself. No Station in the Solar Map shall be named “Jump”.

Landing a Jump
A Translocating Staff Member may change his Station to any Station on the Solar Map that is not under Maintenance without spending any fuel.

Any and all Stations named “Jump” at the time this proposal passes shall be changed to another legal name by a Member of Staff, the Writer, or an Admin.

Captain: Drop us out of Hyperspace, Ensign.
Helmsman: I can’t, sir.
Captain: What?!
Helmsman: Physically impossible, sir. We’re stuck.

Comments

Qwazukee:

01-27-2009 18:06:51 UTC

imperial  I don’t think this needs fixing, but I’ll let Arth decide.

Qwazukee:

01-27-2009 18:28:32 UTC

against (actual Qwaz) I know this doesn’t need fixing, especially not the first part.

Sparrow:

01-27-2009 18:31:35 UTC

Is there something I’ve missed?

Klisz:

01-27-2009 18:39:03 UTC

imperial

Qwazukee:

01-27-2009 18:46:50 UTC

For the first part, you can’t do anything unless it’s specified by the ruleset, as I learned all too well when I tried to Declare Victory earlier in this dynasty.

Also, I’m reasonably sure that the other 2 points don’t actually change anything.

Yoda:

01-27-2009 18:51:48 UTC

imperial

Wakukee:

01-27-2009 18:52:50 UTC

imperial

Kevan:

01-27-2009 18:55:36 UTC

For reference, the relevant bit is in Rule 1.1: “The Ruleset and Gamestate can only be altered in manners specified by the Ruleset.”

Your second change is redundant because we say that “the values of Station are limited to any one planet or moon located within the Solar System only”.

The third point seems valid, though - I can’t find anything in the current ruleset for leaving Jump. Am I missing something?

imperial

Qwazukee:

01-27-2009 19:05:22 UTC

Did we really remove all ways to get out of a jump? Yeesh. Well, I would vote for it if it were just that.

Sparrow:

01-27-2009 19:13:34 UTC

against s/k

I see now that the first rule is unnecessary. My bad.

I still think the second is valid, because the same quote Kevan gave continues to say, “and to the special value ‘Jump’.”

I’m self-killing so that the third rule can be proposed on its own merit.

Qwazukee:

01-27-2009 19:19:26 UTC

Actually, I think that it should cost at least 1 fuel.

Wakukee:

01-27-2009 19:20:43 UTC

Gah! That was me. I cannot wait untilyou get your own computer Qwaz.

arthexis:

01-27-2009 20:11:40 UTC

I like the third part of this Proposal, but yes it could cost 2 or 3 Fuel.

Kevan:

01-27-2009 20:22:11 UTC

[Sparrow] Oh, I see your point. Rule 2.7 says that “Jump” is a “special value” of Station, and Rule 2.7.2 lets us “add a Station to the Solar Maps”.

I suppose this means that we can find an unintentional way out of Jump by adding Jump itself to the Solar Map, for now…

Wakukee:

01-27-2009 21:05:21 UTC

Did Rod just ROD WIZ HAR this? Or was that sparrow? If it was sparrow, he should know that ROLAN WAAZ HARE’s are frownwed upon.

Kevan:

01-27-2009 21:36:51 UTC

In English: he’s asking if you just edited your proposal after people had voted on it (which you aren’t allowed to do; “the Ruleset and Gamestate can only be altered in manners specified by the Ruleset” again). I can’t see that it’s changed, though.

Wakukee:

01-27-2009 21:39:30 UTC

“Not AWL STAF MEMBARS WER HARE have originated in our home planet.” It was edited like a ROD WIZ HARE.

Darknight:

01-27-2009 22:02:48 UTC

imperial Just incase this proposal is still valid. But can we stop with the geek speak?

Sparrow:

01-27-2009 22:44:45 UTC

I did edit the proposal within moments of posting it. I do not believe anyone had voted on it at that point. My edits did not change the meaning of the proposal.

My edits were:

(1) I added the ellipses [...], cutting out part of the non-underlined text which held no changes. I did this because the section took up a lot of unnecessary space even though it looked fine in preview.

(2) I removed ‘Proposal:’ from the title because it was added automatically, and I had doubled it up by typing it manually.

If this is frowned upon, I will let the typos stand in the future.

Wakukee:

01-27-2009 22:56:06 UTC

Minor editing right after posting is fine. I was talkng about the all caps “AWL STAF MEMBARS WER HARE” at the begining of the proposal.

Wakukee:

01-27-2009 22:57:46 UTC

Also: Quote “(2) I removed ‘Proposal:’ from the title because it was added automatically, and I had doubled it up by typing it manually.”
I think that everyone who has ever joined blognomic has made that mistake on their 1st proposal.

Qwazukee:

01-27-2009 23:01:36 UTC

I remember doing that! I think I just left it there, though.

Rodlen:

01-27-2009 23:54:03 UTC

imperial I rather like this, but I’ll leave it to Arth, as I didn’t do anything to this.

Rodlen:

01-27-2009 23:54:27 UTC

Oh wait, Sparrow SKed.

Rodlen:

01-27-2009 23:55:55 UTC

Well, I wasn’t here when this was posted or changed…