Thursday, June 30, 2011

Proposal: This is ridiculous

Quorum 7-4 and is enacted. Bucky achieves victory. -coppro

Adminned at 01 Jul 2011 17:15:51 UTC

If at least half the EVCs contain the name of exactly one active Farmer, then the Farmer whose name is included in the most EVCs has achieved victory.

If less than half of the EVCs contain the name of exactly one active Farmer, then repeal all dynastic rules and begin a new dynasty with no Landlord.

If you are so bored of this dynasty that you are willing to vote down a perfectly legitimate proposal on the grounds that it’s “much too late for this”, then obviously you would rather end this quickly.  So let’s just cut to the chase…

Comments

Bucky:

30-06-2011 21:05:43 UTC

imperial  Bucky (announcing my candidacy; will make up my mind whether to vote FOR or AGAINST later)

scshunt:

30-06-2011 21:09:28 UTC

for Bucky

scshunt:

30-06-2011 21:10:14 UTC

actually, just for fun, for Bucky coppro

Kevan: he/him

30-06-2011 21:10:47 UTC

Sad to see this. From the sidelines, I’d say that your faction proposal was partly just voted down by a group of cooperating players who didn’t want to risk being split up. I suspect you’ll see a successful scam in the next couple of days, which is always a more interesting way for a dynasty to end.

mideg:

30-06-2011 21:25:42 UTC

against

Yoda:

30-06-2011 21:28:05 UTC

Kevan: Why would they be worried about splitting up since you can choose which faction you want to be in?

coppro: “the name of exactly one active Farmer”

ais523:

30-06-2011 21:29:16 UTC

It’s also partly that factions tend to be a bad mechanic, as they typically lead to half the players being unable to win through no fault of their own. It doesn’t even break up cooperating players; if they end up on different factions, they’ll just nominate one player to win, and attempt to sabotage the faction they aren’t on form the inside.

redtara: they/them

30-06-2011 21:33:47 UTC

against Per Kevan

scshunt:

30-06-2011 23:09:07 UTC

Yeah, I didn’t vote it down for any reason other than I think it’s bad to introduce a faction mechanic without a lot of careful thought. And the amount of careful thought required now would extend this dynasty much longer than I feel it has left in it.

aguydude:

30-06-2011 23:25:38 UTC

against  aguydude

redtara: they/them

01-07-2011 01:59:35 UTC

Wait a second, COV against Ienpw III
Sorry Kevhan

Yoda:

01-07-2011 02:40:52 UTC

Ienpw: It says active farmer, so you would’ve been fine either way.

Galtori:

01-07-2011 02:51:36 UTC

against

Darknight: he/him

01-07-2011 03:17:37 UTC

against

Purplebeard:

01-07-2011 08:19:54 UTC

against This dynasty actually has some rather interesting mechanics which are simply not being used, partly because any offensive action anyone takes costs resources and thereby weakens their defensive position, and partly because the only person who can afford to make lots of zombies (and can do so for free) only moves them once a week.

Also, aguydude mideg Winner, because I can.

Kevan: he/him

01-07-2011 09:05:58 UTC

[Yoda] Once a faction rule is in place, there’s a fair chance it would be expanded to include clauses about how faction members can and can’t interact with each other. If I was planning the collaborative victory which I think is on the cards here, I’d want to keep it as a free-for-all.

Bucky:

01-07-2011 15:20:37 UTC

CoV for Bucky.

At this point, I’m convinced the dynasty is doomed.  Attacking other Farmers is not viable.  A majority of Farmers, including the Landlord, are voting down all proposals that attempt to make it viable. 

The dynasty’s main mechanic is attacking other Farmers.

mideg:

01-07-2011 15:29:40 UTC

for mideg

Just because it looks like it could work for me to win this way. Come on, people. :-)

mideg:

01-07-2011 15:32:09 UTC

CoV against mideg
I just realized that for some reason several people voted for Buck*, so I wont win. Since I do not want this vote to happen, I will include a second active farmer’s name: Yoda.

Purplebeard:

01-07-2011 16:24:02 UTC

I was hoping the main mechanic would be fighting off zombies, and using what resources we could spare to annoy our neighbours, but the zombies don’t seem to be too intent on attacking us…

Purplebeard:

01-07-2011 16:26:20 UTC

i.e. attacking other players currently only makes sense if they’re already tied up by other zombies. Currently, most plots are either secured or almost certain to fall, so it makes no sense for us to spawn zombies there.

mideg:

01-07-2011 16:50:02 UTC

@Pb: Wanna coordinate an attack on some other people?

Winner:

01-07-2011 17:32:30 UTC

against Winner

Klisz:

01-07-2011 17:51:25 UTC

for Bucky

Darknight: he/him

01-07-2011 19:53:54 UTC

By the by, how come Buck always gets votes during these proposals? he almost always gets enough unless DC is active. anyway imperial Darknight, cause i’d like to have a 2nd.

Darknight: he/him

01-07-2011 19:54:32 UTC

Oh, DC is active…. huh, not use to them both being active together.

scshunt:

01-07-2011 20:13:46 UTC

Because in this case, Bucky is the one who put and is putting in the effort to win.

mideg:

01-07-2011 20:22:51 UTC

So you say he should win because he tries to win? Ahem? Yeah? Oooookaaaay.

scshunt:

01-07-2011 20:26:07 UTC

Testing something about BNScript:  veto

scshunt:

01-07-2011 22:20:52 UTC

+mideg: If you don’t believe he should win, don’t put a single name in your EVC. Put two or zero so that you vote for a meta.

redtara: they/them

01-07-2011 22:57:24 UTC

coppr0: He put two.
CoV for Bucky

Klisz:

01-07-2011 23:00:55 UTC

@Darknight: Because he’s an experienced emperor, and a generally nice fellow, I assume. (Also, I’m probably not going to get another vote on one of these proposals for years, after what my dictatorship attempt in my last dynasty.)

aguydude:

01-07-2011 23:23:57 UTC

Threads like this make me wish Blognomicbot vote counter was running.

scshunt:

01-07-2011 23:28:32 UTC

It’s currently 6-5 (5-5-1) thanks to BNScript

scshunt:

01-07-2011 23:30:12 UTC

Currently, out of 12 EVCs, 6 I think contain exactly one Farmer. Bucky is by far the most common

aguydude:

01-07-2011 23:33:57 UTC

CoV for  Bucky

Bucky is right about proposals which try to add support for attacking zombies tend to be voted down.  Though really, all we need to do to make it totally viable is to kill Bombie and Molotov Cocktail.