Monday, December 07, 2009

Proposal: Unambiguous PROUSTage

Quorumed, 6-3.—Wakukee

Adminned at 08 Dec 2009 23:27:40 UTC

In subrule 2.5.1 “Basic Spells”, replace

The spell Kingmaker has “PROUST” as its activation sequence. Its effect is “The partner of this Apprentice, if not ineligible for any other reason, may declare victory.”

with

The spell Kingmaker has “PROUST” as its activation sequence. Its effect is “The partner of this Apprentice, at the time this spell is cast, may achieve victory at any time from now until the end of the dynasty, unless they are ineligible for some reason to achieve victory.”

Removing the ambiguity surrounding exactly what PROUST does (whether it allows a declaration or an actual victory, whether it has to be the partner at the time or anyone who casts SOUP later)

Comments

NoOneImportant:

12-07-2009 17:13:49 UTC

for

Klisz:

12-07-2009 17:16:17 UTC

for

spikebrennan:

12-07-2009 18:47:10 UTC

for

Josh:

12-07-2009 20:23:04 UTC

for Although we should clarify the language on declaring, achieving and being able to declare victory once and for all.

Qwazukee:

12-07-2009 20:34:29 UTC

against In favor of not having to be this ridiculously pedantic in the future.

Josh:

12-07-2009 20:35:33 UTC

This is definitely fixing the wrong problem. And the DoV should have fixed the issue at hand, at least for this dynasty. But eh.

NoOneImportant:

12-07-2009 20:40:53 UTC

I’d concur, but at least some of the votes in the DoV centered on my casting of PROUST, and not on the inherent validity of a DoV based on a legitimate PROUST.

Darknight:

12-07-2009 23:25:47 UTC

imperial

tecslicer:

12-07-2009 23:58:12 UTC

for

Wakukee:

12-08-2009 00:31:50 UTC

for , because it is clearly what PROUST was meant to mean.

Excalabur:

12-08-2009 00:56:34 UTC

imperial

Excalabur:

12-08-2009 08:06:03 UTC

I disagree that this is not what proust says, except perhaps the bit about the partners.

Josh:

12-08-2009 13:41:22 UTC

against COV. I like the SOUP ambiguity, and as I’m probably closer to casting PROUST than anyone else I’ll argue that I’d rather cast it to the fates that arbitrarily hand Quazukee the win.

Excalabur:

12-08-2009 14:07:40 UTC

against

Klisz:

12-08-2009 15:30:24 UTC

@Josh: Qwazukee, not Quazukee.

Josh:

12-08-2009 15:36:36 UTC

Whatevs.

Klisz:

12-08-2009 15:39:28 UTC

...you are not my stepsister, Josh. Even though you happen to share a name with my stepbrother.

NoOneImportant:

12-08-2009 21:50:10 UTC

against 
CoV…

Josh raises a good point. Might as well let an enterprising Apprentice make use of the ambiguity.

Klisz:

12-08-2009 22:14:15 UTC

Hmm… CoV against  per Josh. Time for a change of plans… *mua ha ha*

Klisz:

12-08-2009 22:42:35 UTC

CoV for  per Wak… *DUN DUN DUN*

Klisz:

12-08-2009 22:44:16 UTC

CoV against

NoOneImportant:

12-08-2009 22:44:58 UTC

I’m getting dizzy…

Klisz:

12-08-2009 22:48:21 UTC

The MPA is commencing Operation Arabia.  for

NoOneImportant:

12-08-2009 23:24:47 UTC

I’ll alert the OCA.

NoOneImportant:

12-08-2009 23:25:58 UTC

CoV for