Lol’d at the way you avoided ONLYCT

because of the Elephant nonsense.

Of course lilmar could just make a new entry to the CoC that covers what you did…

I am reminded of My Cousin Vinny.

“That was a lucid, intelligent, well-thought-out objection.

Overruled.”

for getting around the CoC.

Not sure if you can do sth. like “0.0001 seconds after this proposal is enacted, replace all instances of the word “elephant” in the rules created above with the twenty-fifth word in rule 2.1.2.1 Information Clearance.”. How should this Proposal be enacted, if you need to do something to enact it after you have enacted it?

We’ve had proposals which have had future effect before; that part’s fine.

[Ienpw] We have? They’re usually just “after this rule has been created, change all instances of X to Y”, not “after this proposal has been enacted”. I think it’s legal enough, but “three weeks after this proposal has been enacted, make some more game changes” would be problematic.

There’s precedent somewhere that that sort of ongoing effect in a proposal creates a temporary anonymous dynastic rule to hold the effect. (IMO, it’s a rather suspicious precedent.)

I think that if a proposal specified game changes to be made three weeks, several months, years, later passed, then we would be obligated to honor those changes (and the future-tense is trivial to get around by using present tense wording such as ‘wait for 100 years, then do such and such’). I also think that any such proposal would not pass, because such clauses would be a headache to keep track of.

, because the effect of using the phrase “officers and citizens” is still there, even if you did avoid the CoC violation.

[ais523] That does seem a very suspicious precedent - “Proposals can either be Pending, Enacted, or Failed.”, so after enacting the first stage of a proposal with a three-week delay in the middle of it, that proposal is either still pending (in which case we can’t enact anything else until we finish this one) or enacted (in which case it is no longer legal for anyone to modify the gamestate “to include the specified effects of that Proposal”).

Kevan: Unless the gamestate is modified such that it modifies itself in the future?

S/K ; request procedural so I can repropose properly.

procedural