Reached quorum 7 votes to 0. Enacted by Kevan.
Adminned at 02 Aug 2020 07:40:06 UTC
To “Plaques”, add:-
If there is only one High Roller, then Gamblers cannot take dynastic actions outside of this rule.
Let’s maybe not play the subgame of “how many people are awake to try a Distraction between a winning Spin and the High Roller claiming their Plaque”. (I just won a game of it.)
Timed out 4 votes to 4. Failed by Kevan.
Adminned at 01 Aug 2020 20:18:07 UTC
Give all Gamblers 10 Annoyingness.
honk honk honk honk honk honk honk honk honk honk honk
Timed out 1 vote to 4. Failed by Kevan.
Adminned at 01 Aug 2020 18:56:54 UTC
In “Wagers”, replace “If no Gambler has changed their own Wager, changed their own Hustle, or Spun or otherwise modified the Wheel within the past 12 hours” with:-
If neither the Wheel nor the Wager, Hustle nor Annoyingness of any Gamblers has changed within the past 12 hours
Move the text of “Unnamed Rule” to the end of “Annoyingness”, removing the empty rule.
Add a new paragraph to “Annoyingness”:-
A Gambler may not perform an action in this rule if they have already performed an instance of it since the Wheel was last Spun.
Replace “A Gambler may change their own Hustle at any time.” with:-
If they haven’t done so since the Wheel was last Spun, a Gambler may change their own Hustle.
Broadening the Spin restriction to cover changes in Annoyingnesses, which players might also want time to react to. And limiting all such actions to once-per-spin, so that the Wheel can’t be locked by endlessly repeating the action.
Fewer than a quorum not voting against. Failed 2-5 with 1 DEF, by Kevan.
Adminned at 30 Jul 2020 09:13:26 UTC
Add the following to the list of keywords (after “Hiatus”):
Keyword:
A label given to something of the game (an individual thing, a relationship between other things, a mechanism, etc), reasonably inferred from context or by having it explicitly defined in the Keyword section. For example, “A Gambler may gain an apple” doesn’t mean that a Gambler gains a literal, real-life apple, but rather, an in-game token which is referred to as an “apple”.
Pending on the laundry list
Reached quorum 7 votes to 0. Enacted by Kevan.
Adminned at 30 Jul 2020 09:07:44 UTC
Add a new Keyword to “Keywords”-
Uphold
To Uphold an illegal action is to retroactively declare the attempt to take it to have been successful, and to declare that all attempted game actions taken after it were attempted as if the Upheld action had been successful.
Attempting to define a verb so that we can write a CfJ as simply as “uphold the removal of the Unearned Segment at 14:22 on July 3” without having to worry about sneaky tricks or dangerous accidents in the wording of it.
Reached quorum 6 votes to 0. Enacted by Kevan.
Adminned at 30 Jul 2020 09:12:23 UTC
Consider the Unearned Segment to have been legally removed from the game at 14:22 on 3 July 2020.
Have just noticed Jumble pointing out on Slack yesterday that another Segment was accidentally lost earlier in the month (by me, this time, I assume a selection error when copy and pasting).
Reached quorum 6 votes to 1. Enacted by Kevan.
Adminned at 29 Jul 2020 11:53:00 UTC
Consider the Bronco and Shaft Segments to have been legally removed from the game at 03:58 on 8 July 2020.
The rider which can no longer be added to the previous CfJ.
After humming and hahing about whether this needs to say “and make subsequent actions which would have been legal in such a case legal” (I’m not sure it actually does, and it’s dangerous water), we could really use a boilerplate verb for this, couldn’t we?
Reached quorum 7 votes to 0. Enacted by Kevan.
Adminned at 29 Jul 2020 09:10:48 UTC
Add the following segments, not on the Wheel and not Primed, with the following values:
Name: Bronco
Payout: Gain 11 points
Global Effect: Randomly select an instance of this segment within all Wagers and Hustles. The gambler with that random instance in their Wager or Hustle is the Cowboy. If the Points of the Cowboy are positive, set their Points to zero.
Name: Shaft
Payout:
Global Effect:
These segments were accidentally removed when Majority was added: https://wiki.blognomic.com/index.php?title=The_Wheel&diff=10554&oldid=10549
(Please ignore)
Kaia idles out after a week with no posts or comments. Quorum remains 6.
Test post
What is BlogNomic?
It’s a Nomic - a game whose rules are changed by the players as the game progresses. Using weblog posts, players submit proposed changes to the game, suggesting whatever they like, and the other players cast votes in comments to that post. If enough vote in favour of a change, we update the rules (which are kept on this wiki page) and carry on playing. Whenever anyone wins the game, we reset the rules, pick a new theme and start again.
Timed out / quorum 7 votes to 0. Enacted by Kevan.
Adminned at 30 Jul 2020 09:02:41 UTC
Change the Payout of the segment named Tiptop to “Gain 5 points”, change the Payout of the segment named Payroll to “Lose 4 points and gain 2 annoyingness”, and change the Payout of the segment named Rising to “Gain 4 points and 1 Annoyingness”.
Miscellaneous segment changes. Really, what’s the point of having “Gain (some amount) of Annoyingness” when you can just exchange your points for it anyways?
Self-killed. Failed by Kevan.
Adminned at 29 Jul 2020 10:04:16 UTC
Amend this: “A Gambler should not roll dice that are clearly associated with a particular action in the Ruleset, but with the intention to not use these rolled values to the best of their ability to resolve that action. A Gambler must use their own name in the Dice Roller, when rolling dice.” to:
A Gambler should not roll dice that are clearly associated with a particular action in the Ruleset, but with the intention to not use these rolled values to the best of their ability to resolve that action. A Gambler must use their own name in the Dice Roller and, if applicable, state and set all of their choices that would condition such a roll and its immediate result, when rolling dice.
Because of the Slack convo thing. Basically, you (possibly, maybe) could roll to steal Points and then later choose who you would apply such a roll to. This aims to fix that.
Reached quorum 7 votes to 1. Enacted by Kevan.
Adminned at 28 Jul 2020 09:48:38 UTC
In the rule “Annoyingness”, replace…
* Select a number (3 or more) of points to steal (the bounty).
* Spend 1 or more annoyingness.
* Roll a DICE(P+F+B-3) where P is the amount of annoyingness the Distractor spent, F is the focus of the Distractee, and B is the bounty.
* If the result of the die roll is less than or equal to P, transfer the amount of the Bounty from the Distractee to the Distractor.
with…
* Spent an amount (1 or more) of Annoyingness, known as the Force.
* Roll DICEX, where X is the Force.
* If the result of the die roll is greater than the Focus of the Distractee, transfer up to 10 Points from the Distractee to the Distractor
Per comments on Look, A Butterfly, replacing the equation with a simpler mechanic, one that you could even explain to someone in a natural English sentence.
Fewer than a quorum not voting against. Failed 2 votes to 7 by Kevan.
Adminned at 28 Jul 2020 08:54:33 UTC
Create a new rule called “Elite”:
The Gamblers with the following names are Stylish:
Once per dynasty, any Gambler can randomly select one of the Stylish Gamblers. That Gambler has achieved victory.
After “The Gamblers with the following names are Stylish:”, continue with a list of all Gamblers whose EVC on this Proposal is a 
(eg. (...) Stylish: Abel, Bob, Carmen, Diego).
I’m honestly not invested at all in this dynasty and its been going on for too long (2 months).
Let’s do something new. Rather than sitting on our hands until the WP is ready, I suggest to play as normal, and even if the WP does eventually become ready during a dynasty, we still play out that last dynasty and THEN we switch over.
Reached quorum 8 votes to 0. Enacted by Kevan.
Adminned at 27 Jul 2020 14:45:49 UTC
In “Annoyingness”, change
If the result of the die roll is less than or equal to P, transfer the result of the from the Distractee to the Distractor.
to
If the result of the die roll is less than or equal to P, transfer the amount of the Bounty from the Distractee to the Distractor.
If a quorum of players also made a comment of “Pay Attention!”, change
Roll a DICE(P+F+B-3) where P is the amount of annoyingness the Distractor spent, F is the focus of the Distractee, and B is the bounty.
to
Roll a DICE(2*(P+F)+B-3) where P is the amount of annoyingness the Distractor spent, F is the focus of the Distractee, and B is the bounty.
Fixing distractions.
Reached quorum 6 votes to 0. Enacted by Kevan.
Adminned at 27 Jul 2020 14:12:50 UTC
Add a new Segment, not on the Wheel, with a name of “Dolphin”, a Payout of “Pays Segments” and a Global Effect of “Set every Gambler’s Annoyingness to zero.”
Self-killed. Failed by Kevan.
Adminned at 27 Jul 2020 14:11:22 UTC
Add a new subrule to the rule called The Wheel, entitled Spin History:
The results of the last five spins are tracked on the wiki page.
If ever a Gambler’s Wager matches exactly, in order, the results of the last five spins, then they may double their Points and gain 10 Annoyingness.
Add the following to the end of the atomic action described in the rule Wagers:
Remove the oldest previous spin from the list of spin results on the wiki page, and add the result of this spin to the end.
Add the results of the last five spins to the wiki page.
Reached quorum 8 votes to 0. Enacted by Kevan.
Adminned at 27 Jul 2020 14:10:51 UTC
As a Daily Action, a Gambler with the least amount of Points (or tied for the least amount of Points) may spend 4 Annoyingness to steal 10 Points from a Gambler with the next least amount of points if that Gambler has at least 20 more Points than them.
I know this will not pass, but I want to keep the Proposals flowing.
FamilyMan and Tantusar idle out automatically after 10 and 7 days of inactivity respectively. Quorum drops to 6.
Self-killed. Failed by Kevan.
Adminned at 26 Jul 2020 17:28:49 UTC
In “Annoyingness”, change
Roll a DICE(P+F+B-3) where P is the amount of annoyingness the Distractor spent, F is the focus of the Distractee, and B is the bounty.
to
Roll a DICE(P+F+B-3) where P is the amount of annoyingness the Distractor spent, F is the focus of the Distractee, and B is the bounty, divided by 2, rounded up.
Distractions need a buff.
Reached quorum 9 votes to 0. Enacted by Publius Scribonius Scholasticus.
Adminned at 25 Jul 2020 13:08:51 UTC
Add a new Segment, not on the Wheel, with a name of “Rimmed”, a Payout of “If Rimless is not on the Wheel, gain 6 points. Otherwise, gain 2 annoyingness.” and a Global Effect of “If Rimless is on the Wheel, detach it .”
Mostly just trying to keep things alive here.
Guess who has returned :D
Timed out 6 votes to 2 and 1 DEF. Enacted by Kevan.
Adminned at 23 Jul 2020 14:19:59 UTC
If the proposal “Budget Cuts” enacted, restore the content that it removed from the ruleset.
In Wagers, replace “give each such Gambler 1 Winner Medallion (excluding those who have no Plaques)” with “give each such Gambler (excluding those who have no Plaques) as many Plaques as there are Segments on the Wheel”.
Repeal the rule “Winner Medallions”.
Replacing the prize on the High-Stakes Table.
Timed out 7 votes to 1 with one DEF. Enacted by Kevan.
Adminned at 23 Jul 2020 14:28:29 UTC
Repeal the rules “Winner Medallions” and “High-Stakes Table”. Remove the bullet point staring with “If any Gamblers are visiting the High-Stakes” from Wagers.
Well, now that the wincon has been established, this seems even more vestigial than before. (Side note: how do you come up with good proposal names i still haven’t figured that out)
Reached quorum 10 votes to 0. Enacted by Kevan.
Adminned at 20 Jul 2020 12:21:28 UTC
To “Names” in the Appendix, add a bullet point:-
* Where a proposal refers to a second proposal by name, it is assumed to refer to the most recently posted proposal of that name which pre-dates the first proposal.
Looking over the laundry list, we should probably get this in before the Wordpress switch, if there will no longer be a “whats_in_a_name2” clue in the URL that a proposal has a duplicate name.
I’d like to unidle.
Reached quorum 7 votes to 0. Enacted by Kevan.
Adminned at 18 Jul 2020 10:22:44 UTC
Enact a new rule, “Plaque Victory”:-
If a Gambler has at least three Plaques, and more Plaques than each other Gambler, then they have achieved victory.
Reached quorum 6 votes to 0. Enacted by Kevan.
Adminned at 18 Jul 2020 10:21:24 UTC
Add a new Segment, not on the Wheel, with a name of “Slobbery”, a Payout of “Pays Segments” and a Global Effect of “Blank all Wagers.”
In the effect of “Rising”, on the Wheel, replace “A random Spare Segment which is not Primed (if any exist) becomes Primed, and the first Segment on the Wheel is moved to the Spare Segment list and is not Primed.” with:-
Prime a random unprimed Spare Segment (if any exist). Detach the first Segment of the Wheel.
Tacking on a simpler wording of Rising.
Reached quorum 6 votes to 0. Enacted by Kevan.
Adminned at 17 Jul 2020 10:14:49 UTC
Reword “The Switch” to:-
The Dynasty of the Second Switch is a game being played at wp.blognomic.com. It is regarded by BlogNomic as a test dynasty where any winner would not ascend to Emperor. Players of that game are encouraged to repeal or otherwise disable the rule “Victory and Ascension” within that game.
Swapping the “if someone decides they’ve won at the Wordpress game, they fight it out with the winner here” for “the Wordpress game is a test”, given that nothing has happened there for a week and it’s likely reached the point where all of its players could be auto-idled and a two-person team propose and enact “I win”.
Self-killed. Failed by Kevan.
Adminned at 16 Jul 2020 19:01:24 UTC
Add a new Segment, not on the Wheel, with a name of “Maturity” and a Payout of “Increase your Points by 10% (rounding down)”.
I apologise for my departure but I must go on a hiatus but will join later some time.
Timed out / quorumed 8 votes to 0. Enacted by Kevan.
Adminned at 16 Jul 2020 11:32:27 UTC
Replace the word “False” with “Off” and the word “True” with “On” throughout the dynastic ruleset.
The Locked-In tracking word “False” is colliding unnecessarily with the Segment name “False”.
Self-killed. Failed by Kevan.
Adminned at 15 Jul 2020 08:52:16 UTC
In “Spare Segments”, change
a Gambler may spend 1 annoyingness to move an Available Segment from the Wheel to the Spare Segment list. It is Primed.
to
a Gambler may spend 1 annoyingness to move an Available Segment from the Wheel to the Spare Segment list. It is not Primed.
Now that we have a constant stream of Primed segments coming in every spin, I don’t think we need this anymore.
Reached quorum 7 votes to 0. Enacted by Kevan.
Adminned at 14 Jul 2020 09:22:25 UTC
Replace “If no Gambler has changed their own Wager, changed their own Hustle or Spun the Wheel within the past 12 hours” with:-
If no Gambler has changed their own Wager, changed their own Hustle, or Spun or otherwise modified the Wheel within the past 12 hours
A change in the Wheel’s composition should probably give everyone the opportunity to rethink their Wagers.
Reached quorum 9 votes to 0 with 1 DEF. Enacted by Kevan.
Adminned at 14 Jul 2020 09:19:31 UTC
In “Plaques”, replace “A Gambler whose Points are greater than the sum of all other Gamblers’ Points, and also greater than the number of Segments on the Wheel, is a High Roller.” with:-
A Gambler is a High Roller if they have more than 50 Points, and at least 20 Points more than each other Gambler.
Reproposal of Always Read the Plaque from a couple of weeks ago, adding the 20 point lead that Derrick requested.
As it stands, there’s no way to gain Plaques or end the current gambling round, as “greater than the sum of all other Gamblers’ Points” is practically impossible given the player scores right now (you need to reach a score above 285, and by the time you’ve got that far other players’ scores will likely also have risen, increasing that target score more quickly than your own score can increase). It made sense under the original betting system which resulted in scores fluctuating above and below zero, but not under this one.
Timed out 5 votes to 5. Failed by Kevan.
Adminned at 14 Jul 2020 09:18:20 UTC
Repeal the rules “Winner Medallions” and “High-Stakes Table”. Remove the bullet point staring with “If any Gamblers are visiting the High-Stakes” from Wagers.
Can we all agree that this was a bad idea?
Hi,
I know i just joined and maybe i should just sit back and play passively until i am established. I came up with an idea for a future dynasty and was prepared to sit on my hands until my turn to start a dynasty that way.
However, i then read the new player guide which said things like:
“Be creative to help build the game.”
“Make more proposals and tell the Emperor about problems with the dynasty.”
“Participate and share ideas”
“Participate, give feedback, try and make things work before doing anything else.”
“Rules. I for one don’t come up with many great ideas, but this game is built on its rules. People should try to at least start discussions about future mechanics they think would be fun, and maybe someone else can figure out a way to work it into the current rules.”
“Support, encourage, and instruct new players; propose rule changes to create a game you think is fun; accept that other players might have different ideas of fun, or have different goals in playing than you do;”
“Be bold enough to propose repealing or changing any rule that seems boring. Make some noise if it’s getting quiet. Encourage interaction. Keep any rivalry in-character.”
“Take part of the dynasty. And if they are not enjoying it, make proposals to fix the parts they don’t enjoy.”
This made me realize that perhaps if i made poeple aware of my idea, which is in a draft form, people wouldnt necessarily roll their eyes and say “Who even is this guy?”, and maybe would be excited about the idea, and who knows maybe want to help me make it into something that we could vote on and integrate into this dynasty.
The roullette wheel looks a bit boring, to be perfectly honest. But i am sure it will grow on me!
Anyway, here is my idea https://wiki.blognomic.com/index.php?title=ChessInc
It is written as an ascension address, and now obvioulsy it would have to be rewritten to be an in-game change. But check it out when you have 15-20 minutes and let me know if you love it or hate it…
Thanks!
Hi,
Ready to become a player!
need a mentor
thanks!
Clucky idles out automatically after a week’s inactivity. Quorum remains 6.
Timed out 1 vote to 5 with 1 DEF. Failed by Kevan.
Adminned at 13 Jul 2020 10:15:57 UTC
Add a new rule titled “Victory”:
A Gambler’s Cash-out Value is their Points, plus MEDALVALUE per Winner Medallion, plus 8 times their Annoyingness, plus PLAQUEVALUE per Plaque. The Gambler with the highest Cash-out Value, breaking ties by Points, has achieved victory.
The rule “The Switch” may not be repealed by an Ascension Address. (However, dynastic terms in it are changed, and this rule may be repealed by Ascension Address.)
Replace MEDALVALUE in this rule with the roll of a DICE60, and PLAQUEVALUE with the roll of a DICE120.
Remove the second paragraph of Winner Medallions.
Timed out 4 votes to 5 with one DEF. Failed by Kevan.
Adminned at 11 Jul 2020 19:11:12 UTC
(I unidle.)
Add a new rule titled “Victory”:
Any Gambler with 2 Plaques has achieved victory.
The rule “The Switch” may not be repealed by an Ascension Address. (However, dynastic terms in it are changed, and this rule may be repealed by Ascension Address.)
Alright, I guess it wasn’t me keeping the game stale. I could run a dynasty here. We could have fun. We don’t need to switch from a Metadynasty.
Trigon idles out after seven days without a post or comment from them. Quorum remains 6.
Timed out 2 votes to 4. Failed by Kevan.
Adminned at 08 Jul 2020 10:01:35 UTC
If a rule called “The Switch” exists, rename it to “Network Switch”.
Enact a new rule, “The Switch”:-
The Dynasty of the Second Switch is a game being played at wp.blognomic.com. It is regarded by BlogNomic as a test dynasty whose winner, if any, is immaterial. Players of that game are encouraged to repeal the rule “Victory and Ascension” within that game.
A simpler solution: requesting that the Second Switch game disable its victory mechanism, so that we don’t have to worry about both dynasties producing their own winner.
Timed out / quorumed 7 votes to 0. Enacted by Kevan.
Adminned at 08 Jul 2020 10:01:04 UTC
Enact a new rule, “The Switch”:-
The Dynasty of the Second Switch is a game being played at wp.blognomic.com. It is regarded by BlogNomic as being on equal standing with this dynasty.
The Gambler known as Seventy-Fifth Trombone may (once per dynasty) make a blog post declaring a single Gambler to be a Pretender, if they believe that that Gambler has achieved victory within the Dynasty of the Second Switch.
If a Pretender has been announced in this way, a Gambler may only make an Ascension Address if the Pretender has posted a blog entry permitting them to.
The first of two straw poll proposals to determine which dynasty or dynasties people should be trying to play and win, because both have been flagging.
This is an attempt to recognise a winner of the other game, over here: both victors must agree among themselves how the next true dynasty should be run. Deferring to the judgment of the other game’s Emperor (I seem to remember Seventy-Fifth Trombone being the Emperor over there, and it doesn’t appear to describe itself as a Metadynasty?) to determine the winner, as I can’t think of a reliable way to access another game’s gamestate directly.
Quorum falls to 6.
This is mostly separate from my reasons for idling from the WP dynasty. I had a good time with this dynasty. There were some fun tactical choices to be made with wagering, and interesting interactions with the nomic gameplay. But I don’t want to stay around trying to keep my lead by keeping the game stale. There’s no excitement now that it’s unclear that I’m even playing to win given the switch, and if I did, I won’t have the time to run a dynasty anyway. So, I might as well clear the way for someone else to have fun with it.
I want to join
The game that’s going on.
And I apologise if I voted for stuff before being registered
Timed out 1 vote to 2 with one DEF. Failed by Kevan.
Adminned at 06 Jul 2020 12:29:29 UTC
Add a new role to the ruleset, called Switch Supremacy:
No Gambler my post an ascension address.
There exists a trial game of BlogNomic, which is found at wp.blognomic.com. This rule of the BlogNomic ruleset has precise over any rule in the trial game’s ruleset; in all other instances the trial game’s own ruleset has priority over the trial game’s gamestate.
Proposals made at BlogNomic.com may affect the trial game as if the trial game were part of the gamestate governed by this ruleset. In no other way is the trial game considered to be gamestate for the proposes of this ruleset, other than those outlined in this rule.
BlogNomic may be in a state of Switch. BlogNomic is currently not in a state of Switch. If a gambler has successfully achieved victory in this game and a Designer has successfully achieved victory in the trial game then BlogNomic has entered a state of Switch, and any admin may undertake the following atomic action:
Take all instances of BlogNomic out of hiatus.
Use a text comparison tool to elicit the differences between the non-dynastic sections of each of the main and trial rulesets.
Make a proposal on the main blog at BlogNomic.com for each difference, proposing that this ruleset adopt the version in the trial ruleset, omitting any difference that amounts to a change in dynasty-specific terminology
I don’t know what happens after that yet… But I hope that this is a starting point that we can tinker with.
Timed out 6 votes to 0. Enacted by Kevan.
Adminned at 06 Jul 2020 08:54:47 UTC
Create a new Segment, not on the Wheel, with a name of “Majority” and a Payout of “Gain points equal to quorum, if a quorum of Gamblers have Majority in their Wager”.
Timed out 4 votes to 3. Enacted by Kevan.
Adminned at 06 Jul 2020 08:53:12 UTC
To the rule “Winner Medallions”, add:-
A Gambler may pay 30 Points to gain 1 Winner Medallion.
Add the following rule:
A Gambler may successfully Declare Victory if they have 3 or more Winner’s Medallions.
Some people want the game to be over, while almost nobody wants to go on hiatus or just end it, so… a Victory condition.
Fewer than a quorum not voting against. Failed 1 vote to 6 by Kevan.
Adminned at 03 Jul 2020 14:25:34 UTC
Enact a new rule, “No More Bets”:-
BlogNomic is on Hiatus.
A proposal on Monday to make it possible to win any further rounds of this game timed out and failed, with no counter-proposals. Of the four proposals made in the past week, three were from me and one was requesting adminship in the Wordpress game.
Have people given up on this metadynasty in favour of the Wordpress one? (I appreciate that Pokes is keen to lock in the status quo while they have the most Plaques.)
BlogNomic is an online Nomic: a self-modifying game where changing the rules is part of the game. Players make blog posts proposing additions or alterations to the ruleset, discussing and casting votes in the comments: if enough vote in favour, the rules are changed and play continues.
The game has been running since 2003 and resets every month or so. Have a look around the wiki for more information and history. New players are always welcome and can join in the game at any time.
BlogNomic is powered by pMachine ExpressionEngine.
