Friday, July 01, 2016

Proposal: Map Spam! (or not)

In the rule “Apocrypha” change the text “Paper to draw a Map” to “Paper to draw a Map as a weekly action.”

Lowers maximum map production to be in line with maximum map use.  If you want to produce multiple maps in a week, you can always bribe someone else to submit one.

Proposal: casing the joint

Add the following to the end of the “Spelling” section of the Appendix

Unless otherwise specified, the capitalization of letters or lack thereof shall be construed as irrelevant for the purposes of play.

In the rule “Random Generators” section of the Appendix after “The GNDT can be used to generate random results. ” add

These commands are case sensitive.

Avoiding further confusion. the DICE commands are case sensitive though so need to clarify that.

Proposal: No Uckys Allowed

Reword the rule “Teaming Up” to the following:

If there are exactly two Cooperative Scribes are in a Location, they are a Team.

For the purposes of all Dynastic Rules but this one that care about the Stress or Energy of a Scribe in a Team (a “Team Member”), the Energy of each Team Member in a Team is equal to the higher Energy in the team plus 15, and the Stress of each Team Member is equal to the higher Stress in the Team plus 3. However, if either member of a Team gains or loses Paper (due to a rule other than this one, except the rule “Paper”), so does the other; and if either Member of a team loses Energy or gains Stress (due to a rule other than this one), so does the other.

Scribes may be Cooperative or Uncooperative, defaulting to Uncooperative. If a Scribe is Cooperative, this is represented by an asterisk after the English word in the GNDT field “Location”.

Reword the rule “Locations” to the following:

Each Scribe has a Location, tracked in the GNDT, which by default is “Scriptorum” and can be any single English word. A Scribe whose location is XXX is considered to be “in the XXX”.

As a daily action, a Scribe may change their location. Upon doing so, the Stress of every Scribe with the same location that the Scribe is changing their location to is increased by one (including the stress of the Scribe performing the action), unless that location is the Scriptorum, in which case no Stress values are changed. A Scribe may additionally become Cooperative or Uncooperative, as part of this action.

Add a new Rule, “Clubhouses”, with the following text:

If a Location’s name contains the string “Club”, and two or more Scribes are in that Location, other Scribes cannot change their Location to that Location.

Another stab at making Teaming Up work, this time without an extra GNDT row. (Gaining/losing Paper by the rule Paper also excluded because it would prevent two members of a Team from transferring Paper, and would allow doubling a Team’s Paper by bouncing it off a Proxy, if done correctly.) Also, apparently, Location isn’t actually tracked yet, so fixing that.

(Title thought up on the car ride home yesterday, no harm meant.)

Friday, July 01, 2016

Proposal: Bigger Maps

In the rule Apocrypha, change the text

(The Editor may use a randomization method of their own choice for this action.)

to

(The Editor may use a randomization method of their own choice for this action.) The Editor may Visit the Archives this way up to twice per week.

and the text

A Scribe who is not the Editor may spend 1 Paper to draw a Map

to

A Scribe who is not the Editor may spend 5 Paper to draw a Map

 

Pricing Maps to keep up with inflation.

Call for Judgment: Syntax Error: Upper Case P Expected

Several Scribes have attempted to cause Proxies to take GNDT actions.  However, the rule Proxies clearly requires their comments to start with PROXY in all-caps.  I was the only Scribe to do so (I attempted to take the action twice, one of which had the wrong syntax but the other was valid); all other such attempts were illegal.  Therefore:
*Revert the 3 illegally initiated Paper transfers by MC Keitalia, MC Geran and MC Damanor, then
*Transfer all of MC Damanor’s Paper to Bucky (where it would have been included in the existing, legal transfer)

Wednesday, June 29, 2016

am i doing it right

can i pls be a scribe pls

what is this for

Vogonomic

Another Question as to the nature of the True Ruleset has been Answered by rule 2.9 of Dynasty 77, “HHGTTG.”

Proposal: Map Priority

Timed out. 3 FOR votes, 4 AGAINST (2 + 2 def votes and editor voted against). So fails. -Clucky

Adminned at 01 Jul 2016 17:56:08 UTC

After the bulleted list in the Rule “Apocrypha”, add the following (unbulleted) paragraph:

The Editor shall only use the first method if all Maps whose date have arrived or passed have been used. If a Map specifies a Rule that would not be possible or permitted for the Editor to add, it is considered used.

Tuesday, June 28, 2016

Proposal: Privacy Please

Times out (and has enough against votes) and fails 3-5 -Larrytheturtle

Adminned at 30 Jun 2016 23:35:11 UTC

Add the following text to the end of the rule “Bathing”:

Only one Scribe can be in the Bathroom at a time.  But if a Scribe has been in the Bathroom continuously for the previous 12 hours, any Scribe may move them to the Lounge.

If there are multiple scribes in the Bathroom, move them all to the Scriptorum.

Yes, the Bathroom time limit was 24 hours in the original ruleset.  But I think 12 hours plays better this dynasty.

Proposal: Bills AND Coins?

Times out and passes 3-1 -Larrytheturtle

Adminned at 30 Jun 2016 23:01:50 UTC

If the Proposal “burn it with fire” failed, this Proposal does nothing.

Otherwise, if the Proposal “Cleaning up gold 2.0” failed, divide each Scribe’s Gold by 10, rounding down.

If it passed, remove “Gold” from the list of Commercial resources in the rule “Exchange”, and divide each Scribe’s Gold by 2, rounding down.

Reword the rule “Paper Money” to the following:

Each Scribe has an amount of Paper, tracked in the GNDT. New Scribes start with the same amount of Paper as the Editor unless another Dynastic Rule says they start with a different amount of Paper.

A Scribe may, at any time, transfer a positive amount of their Paper to any one other Scribe or Proxy.

Award each Scribe and Proxy X Paper, where X is the amount of Gold they have.

Repeal the rule “Money”.

Proposal: burn it with fire

Times out (and has quorum) and passes 5-0-1 -Larrytheturtle

Adminned at 30 Jun 2016 20:55:40 UTC

Repeal the rule “Random Encounters”

We already have a mechanic encouraging people to submit proposals (Weekly Bonuses). This rule, even with the proposed fixed version, encourages people to submit meaningless stuff while discouraging them taking a risk on something that people might dislike.

Proposal: Blogo Raffle

Times out and passes 3-2-1 -Larrytheturtle

Adminned at 30 Jun 2016 20:53:07 UTC

Create a rule called Raffle with the following text.

Whenever a Scribe is in the Lottery Room, as a weekly action that Scribe may “Write their name on a ticket” by making a comment in the GNDT of “Enter Raffle” and reducing their paper by 1. A Scribe can only perform this action if they have at least 1 paper. After a scribe performs this action, their name is appended to the list of Entries in this rule. Each name must be placed on a new line to ensure readability. When the Editor makes a weekly report, if the Entry List in this rule contains the name of at least 1 Scribe, they must choose a Scribe whose name is on the list of Entries at random. The chosen Scribe gains an amount of paper equal to the number of names in this rule’s Entry List plus one. Immediately afterwards, they must remove all names from the Entries list in this rule.

Entry List:

Mostly just messing around here. According to game theory, with stress being a factor there would be no logical reason to make an entry if it were just equal to number of entries, hence the plus one.

In regards to deferential votes and random encounters

A deferential vote is treated the same as the Editors vote. Should the Editor be against a Proposal, and all deferential votes become against, this probably means they count towards the random encounter rule. So if you’re unsure about a proposal, you might be unsure about whether that player should be penalized for it. Consider adding “Nice try though” to deferential votes.

Then again, it is arguable whether the phrase “same as the editor’s vote” may well include vote modifiers such as that, and that the Editors choice to include (or not include) that clause is all that counts, as it might replace their own decision (a deferential vote implies trust in the Editors choice). Voting rules are, in fact, core rules after all. As such, feel free to discuss that here, so we may come to a conclusion. I’m not sure this quite requires a call for judgement yet, but it could potentially result in one.

Proposal: Cleaning up gold 2.0

Self-killed. -RaichuKFM

Adminned at 29 Jun 2016 00:41:51 UTC

Reword the rule “Money” to the following:

Each adventurer has a collection of Gold tracked in the GNDT. When a Scribe joins the game for the first time, they start with 10 Gold.

A Scribe may, at any time, subtract a positive amount of gold pieces from their own collection and add that amount to the collection of any other Scribe or NPC.

Reword the rule “Random Encounters” to the following:

The realm of Blognomic is littered with minor gold-carrying Monsters. Each proposal, in addition to being an attempt to change the rules, also represents an encounter with such monsters.

Should a proposal by a Scribe pass, enough other Scribes have joined that the random monsters have been defeated, and its author gains X/2 Gold, where X is quorum. Should a proposal by a Scribe fail, the other Scribes leave its author to get mugged and lose X/2 Gold, where X is the number of AGAINST votes on that proposal. If the proposal was Self-Killed, they managed to escape some of the mugging. In this case, X is the number of AGAINST votes cast before the author’s AGAINST vote. However, if more than half the the Scribes who had their vote count as AGAINST on a failed proposal included the phrase “Nice try though” in the comments of that proposal, the other Scribes rescue them and no gold is lost or gained from that proposal.

In the rule “Exchange”, after “The following resources are considered Commercial: Paper, Looks, Fame” append “, Gold”

Set each scribe to 10 Gold.

Now with 50% less “not-actually-a-proposal”!

Cleaning up gold

Reword the rule “Money” to the following:

Each adventurer has a collection of Gold tracked in the GNDT. When a Scribe joins the game for the first time, they start with 10 Gold.

A Scribe may, at any time, subtract a positive amount of gold pieces from their own collection and add that amount to the collection of any other Scribe or NPC.

Reword the rule “Random Encounters” to the following:

The realm of Blognomic is littered with minor gold-carrying Monsters. Each proposal, in addition to being an attempt to change the rules, also represents an encounter with such monsters.

Should a proposal by a Scribe pass, enough other Scribes have joined that the random monsters have been defeated, and its author gains X/2 Gold, where X is quorum. Should a proposal by a Scribe fail, the other Scribes leave its author to get mugged and lose X/2 Gold, where X is the number of AGAINST votes on that proposal. If the proposal was Self-Killed, they managed to escape some of the mugging. In this case, X is the number of AGAINST votes cast before the author’s AGAINST vote. However, if more than half the the Scribes who had their vote count as AGAINST on a failed proposal included the phrase “Nice try though” in the comments of that proposal, the other Scribes rescue them and no gold is lost or gained from that proposal.

In the rule “Exchange”, after “The following resources are considered Commercial: Paper, Looks, Fame” append “, Gold”

Set each scribe to 10 Gold.

Proposal: No writing your own map

Reaches quorum and passes 4-1. -RaichuKFM

Adminned at 28 Jun 2016 18:51:00 UTC

In the rule “Apocrypha” replace “A Scribe may spend 1 Paper to draw a Map.” with “A Scribe who is not the Editor may spend 1 Paper to draw a Map.”

Bucky raised a good point in my other proposal. This should be patched regardless of the outcome of that proposal.

Monday, June 27, 2016

Proposal: Map to the future

Fails with quorum against at 2-4. -RaichuKFM

Adminned at 28 Jun 2016 18:48:11 UTC

Remove “, but not more than three times in a given week” from the rule “Apocrypha”.

In the rule “Apocrypha”, after “(The Editor may use a randomization method of their own choice for this action.)” append ” The Editor may not perform this choice more than three times in a given week.”

Encourage the editor to read more maps.

Also Brendan should read my map =)

Proposal: Teams

Self-killed. -RaichuKFM

Adminned at 28 Jun 2016 18:45:27 UTC

Reword the rule Teaming Up to the following:

If there are exactly two Cooperative Scribes are in a Location, they are a Team.

For the purposes of all Dynastic Rules but this one that care about the Stress or Energy of a Scribe in a Team (a “Team Member”), the Energy of each Team Member in a Team is equal to the higher Energy in the team plus 15, and the Stress of each Team Member is equal to the higher Stress in the Team plus 3. However, if either member of a Team gains or loses Paper (due to a rule other than this one), so does the other; and if either Member of a team loses Energy or gains Stress (due to a rule other than this one), so does the other.

Scribes may be Cooperative or Uncooperative, defaulting to Uncooperative, and tracked in the GNDT. As a daily action, a Cooperative Scribe may become Uncooperative, or an Uncooperative Scribe may become Cooperative.

Trying to minimize the number of new stats in play here, while still looping this sensibly into playable, tracked stats. We should try to mesh existing things together better, I think, and come up with more mechanics, rather than continuing to add more and more stats.

Proposal: Unmarking

Reaches quorum and passes 5-0. -RaichuKFM

Adminned at 28 Jun 2016 18:42:11 UTC

Unmark the rule Bathing as provisional. Unmark the rule Energy as provisional.

They’ve been around long enough. Still not sure what to do about the teaming up rule. There’s a fair bit of undefined stuff there.

Proposal: Nighttime

Reaches quorum and passes 6-0. -RaichuKFM

Adminned at 28 Jun 2016 18:36:06 UTC

In the Rule “Random Encounters”, remove the phrase “The money gained and lost from random encounters is doubled for proposals proposed at nighttime.”

Reword the Rule “Money” to the following:

Each Scribe has a collection of gold pieces tracked in the GNDT in a column called “Gold”, defaulting to 50.
A Scribe may, at any time, subtract a positive amount of gold pieces from their own collection and add that amount to the collection of gold pieces of any one other Scribe or Proxy.

Award each Scribe 50 gold pieces. Do not award any gold pieces to Scribes who were neither Scribes nor Idle Scribes at the time this Proposal was posted.

This Proposal is considered not to have been proposed at nighttime.

Various fixes, and, rather than trying to define nighttime Dynastically, just nixing it.

I don’t like this kind of Proposal rewarding mechanic at all, but it seems contra the spirit of the game to nix a randomly added Rule entirely unless we kinda have to.

Let’s break the GNDT

The True Ruleset shines forth in Rule 2.6, “Money” (and its subrule 2.6.1, “Random Encounters”) from Dynasty 56.

The Weekly Report

In a gratifying turn of events, all the currently active Scribes (Larrytheturtle, GenericPerson, RaichuKFM, Bucky, Qwertyu63, Clucky and myself) submitted Proposals last week, and have been awarded 1 Paper.

In addition, for the high quality of proposals thus submitted, Bucky has been named Scribe of the Week.

Monday, June 27, 2016

Proposal: Derelict Dispersal

Reaches quorum and passes 6-0. -RaichuKFM

Adminned at 28 Jun 2016 18:31:28 UTC

In the rule “Derelicts”, change the text

Any Scribe with the same Orbit as a Derelict may, as a Knock-On Action, cause that Derelict to take a GNDT action.

to

When a Scribe changes their Location to match the Location of one or more Derelicts, they may cause one of those Derelicts to attempt an action that only modifies GNDT gamestate.

Change MC Damanor’s Location to “Cellar”, MC Keitalia’s Location to “Hallway” and MC Geran’s Location to “Flagpole”.

Inlining the definition of “Knock-On Action”, and moving the Derelicts out of the Scriptorium.

Proposal: Abdication

Reaches quorum and passes 5-0. -RaichuKFM

Adminned at 28 Jun 2016 18:28:54 UTC

Add a new rule called Abdication with the following text.

A player can Abdicate(give up) an Official Position they hold at any time by making a comment in the format of ABDICATE: (Position Title) in the GNDT. A player who makes such a comment is reffered to as the Abdicating player for this rule in that instance. The position indicated in the comment must then be removed from the Abdicating player’s row in the GNDT as soon as possible. Abdication can only remove the Abdicating player from an Official Position if they hold that the position. Only one official position may be abdicated per comment. If more than one Scribe holds the same Official Position, only the Official Position in the Abdicating Scribe’s GNDT is removed. Player’s can only Abdicate their own Official Positions.

A lot of capital letters here, but this should help prevent players being forced into duties or positions they do not desire. The alternative was that whenever a position is granted, the player must either decline or accept the position through a story post, but I’m not sure about that for some reason. Maybe I’m worried it could get spammy as time goes on and more positions are added.

Proposal: Safeguard against malicious proxy designations

Reaches quorum and passes 4-0. -RaichuKFM

Adminned at 28 Jun 2016 18:25:41 UTC

In the rule “Proxies”, change the text

Proxies cannot make blog posts.

to

Proxies designated as such by subrules of this rule cannot make blog posts.

Unmark the rule “Proxies”

Making it so that, even if another proposal maliciously designates a Scribe as a Proxy, it wouldn’t interfere with their ability to play the game.

Sunday, June 26, 2016

Proposal: Clean-up

Reaches quorum and passes 5-0. -RaichuKFM

Adminned at 26 Jun 2016 18:03:19 UTC

Reword the rule “Official Positions” to the following:

A Scribe may be granted an Official Position, which is tracked as a selection field in the GNDT. While holding such a position, a Scribe may perform a Daily or Weekly Action that they would otherwise not be able to perform, called that Office’s Powers; each of these actions is described following the relevant position below. The list of Official Positions is as follows, with the name of each position in bold:

  • Scribe of the Week - The Scribe of the Week may, as a Daily Action, select another Scribe and increase each of their numeric resources tracked in the GNDT by 1.

Proposal: Proxy Disambiguation

Reaches quorum and passes 5-0. -RaichuKFM

Adminned at 26 Jun 2016 17:58:40 UTC

In the rule “Official Positions”, change all instances of the word “Proxy” to “Lackey”.

In the rule “Proxies”, change the text “A Proxy is a non-Scribe entity designated as such by the rules.” to “A non-Scribe entity designated as a Proxy by this rule or its subrules is a Proxy.”.

Set all Derelicts’ GNDT stats to the default values for new Scribes.

Gamestate tracking note

Per the CfJ “Illegal CfJ passing”, the CfJ “Quorum is One” should be Pending right now.  Should I do that myself or is RaichuKFM handling it?

Call for Judgment: Secondary Poll

Reaches quorum and passes 4-1. -RaichuKFM

Adminned at 26 Jun 2016 01:09:51 UTC

If the Declaration of Victory “Snappy Title” enacted, this Call for Judgement does nothing.

Otherwise, fail the Declaration of Victory “Snappy Title”, if it did not already fail.

Additionally, change the gamestate to reflect the following:

The Call for Judgement “Quorum is One” never legally enacted; revert its enactment, then fail it.

If the rule Official Position was repealed, unrepeal it.

No Scribes were ever legally granted the Official Position “Proxy”; set their Official Position to “-”.

Please keep actual arguments about the scam in the DoV comments, for clarity.

Anyways, here, this way actual gamestate will reflect majority opinion on what it should be, unambiguously.

Call for Judgment: Illegal CfJ passing

Reaches quorum and passes 4-1. -RaichuKFM

Adminned at 25 Jun 2016 21:48:43 UTC

Revert the passing of http://blognomic.com/archive/quorum_is_one#comments

 

RaichuKFM has passed a CfJ, claiming to have reached Quorum, despite only having 1 FOR vote when Quorum was 5 at the time.

I reverted their illegal passing of the CfJ but then they reverted my reversal so instead of getting in an edit war i’m doing the right thing and using another CfJ

of course, if people are in the habit of illegally passing CfJs there is nothing stopping anyone from illegally failing this one, but hopefully it won’t come to that

Declaration of Victory: Snappy Title

Failed early by Call For Judgement. (0-7.) -RaichuKFM

Adminned at 26 Jun 2016 01:11:59 UTC

Per the Call for Judgement “Quorum is One”, I have achieved victory.

Okay, an explanation of the scam:

Per the (repealed) rule Official Positions, “A Scribe may be granted an Official Position”; nothing specifies how, but it is a thing that may be done, so I did it. To everybody.

Per the rule Proxies, “A Proxy is a non-Scribe entity designated as such by the rules. [...] Proxies are considered to be Scribe for the purpose of other Dynastic Rules, except where they explicitly refer to non-Proxy Scribes.” There is arguably a case to be made that a Scribe with the Official Position of Proxy is a Proxy, and thus not a Scribe for the purpose of Core Rules or the Glossary, (While still a Scribe for the purposes of the rule Official Positions, so they don’t automatically lose it again) which are where Quorum is defined.

Per the rule Calls for Judgement, “A Pending CFJ may be Resolved by an Admin if it has a Quorum of FOR Votes”; Quorum, defined relative Scribes by the rule Keywords as “Quorum of a subset of Scribes is half the number of Scribes in that subset, rounded down, plus one. If the word Quorum is used without qualifying which subset of Scribes it is referring to, it is referring to a Quorum of all Scribes.” So, being the only Scribe, quorum was (Floor(1/2)+1), that is to say, one. With one vote FOR, I could resolve it immediately, and did.

Now, you may ask why I bothered to do this, with so many easily disputable parts: Well, simple. If there are holes in these rules, and anybody wins because of them, I want it to be me. And, if any part of this works, but the whole doesn’t, then we have a short Hiatus to work out which bits those are, and how to fix them, before somebody attempts a dictatorship.

Call for Judgment: Quorum is One

Fails 0-4 with a Quorum of AGAINST votes. -Bucky

Adminned at 26 Jun 2016 00:59:23 UTC

I just pulled a dubious scam, which either doesn’t actually work, and can be tidily undone with a more leisurely CfJ, or lets me pass whatever I want via CFJ. I think it requires some immediate attention now, in case it happens to be the latter case. As such, change the gamestate to reflect the following (but not retroactively):

Kevan, Brendan, Larrytheturtle, GenericPerson, Clucky, and Bucky are all considered to be Scribes. RaichuKFM achieves victory.

In addition, repeal the rule “Official Positions”.

Yes, this is ridiculously dubious, but I think I have a case.

No, I won’t feel bad if it’s termed illegal. But, let’s hash it out in the DoV comments, and then, if my win is deemed illegitimate, make one CfJ to set things straight (including closing any of the parts of this scam that do work, if there are any) rather than a whole bunch of them.

Saturday, June 25, 2016

Proposal: Connecting the Dots

Reaches quorum and passes 6-0. -RaichuKFM

Adminned at 26 Jun 2016 17:54:12 UTC

Add a new dynastic rule called “Locations” with the following text

Each Scribe has a Location, which by default is “Scriptorum” and can be any single English word. A Scribe whose location is XXX is considered to be “in the XXX”.

As a daily action, a Scribe may change their location. Upon doing so, the Stress of every scribe with the same location that the Scribe is changing their location to is increased by one (including the stress Scribe performing the action), unless that location is the Scriptorum in which case no Stress values are changed.

Trying to make it possible to be “In the Bathroom” and also make stress do stuff.

Proposal: Mandatory Weekly Reports

Times out and passes 2-0, with 4 unresolved Deferentials. -RaichuKFM

Adminned at 26 Jun 2016 17:49:29 UTC

In the rule “Weekly Bonuses”, change the text

The Editor should then make a blog post

to

The Editor shall then make a blog post

Unless either the Editor voted against this proposal or a majority of EVCs contained the word “skippable”, change the text

the Editor may award

in the rule “Weekly Bonuses” to

the Editor shall award

Proposal: More Stress

Reaches quorum and passes 5-1. -RaichuKFM

Adminned at 25 Jun 2016 17:40:03 UTC

Add a new rule called “Official Positions” with the following text:

A Scribe may be granted an Official Position, which is tracked as a selection field in the GNDT. While holding such a position, a Scribe may have perform a Daily or Weekly Action that they would otherwise not be able to perform, called that Office’s Powers; each of these actions is described following the relevant position below. The list of Official Positions is as follows, with the name of each position in bold:

  • Proxy - The Proxy has no Powers.
  • Scribe of the Week - The Scribe of the Week may, as a Daily Action, select another Scribe and increase each of their numeric resources tracked in the GNDT by 1.

Proxisional

A glimmer of the True Ruleset appears in Rule 2.1, “Proxies,” from Dynasty 123. Its subrule is included. This should be fun.