Wednesday, December 09, 2009

Wish Protosal

Add a new rule, titled “Wishing”:

Each Adventurer has a number of Wishes, tracked in the GNDT. Each Adventurer initially has 3 Wishes. As a weekly action, an Adventurer may spend 1 Wish to Make a Wish, unless this would reduce their Wishes to below 0. When an Adventurer Makes a Wish, they shall make a post to the blog, with a subject beginning with “[Wish]”; the post shall contain exactly one statement (the Wish). The Gamestate shall then be altered such that the Wish (according to the Djinn’s interpretation) is true.

Comments

Klisz:

09-12-2009 16:19:06 UTC

Of course, we’d need restrictions - no making anyone achieve victory, no altering the ruleset, no making anyone the Djinn, no altering the amount of Wishes anyone has.

Excalabur:

09-12-2009 16:28:08 UTC

Don’t jump the dynasty.

Excalabur:

09-12-2009 16:29:17 UTC

Also, quit posting comments on posts that are closed for commenting.

Josh: Observer he/they

09-12-2009 16:30:34 UTC

veto

Wakukee can set the term for his own dynasty.

Klisz:

09-12-2009 16:32:38 UTC

Why? Are you afraid that I know something you don’t?

To be clear, the way I’m commenting on those posts is that sometimes Firefox still has a tab open from back when those posts were open, so I can comment using those tabs.

Also, I have 22 Google Wave invites. Anyone want one?

Klisz:

09-12-2009 16:33:03 UTC

Posted at the same time as Josh.

...he’s already said he’s going to do the Djinn dynasty…

Josh: Observer he/they

09-12-2009 16:36:25 UTC

Yeah, and doubtless knows how he wants it to work. Call me old-fashioned but I’d prefer to do him the decency of letting him get his ideas out first.

Klisz:

09-12-2009 16:39:02 UTC

Blame arthexis, he did the same to me (I didn’t even say it was a zombie apocalypse…)

Josh: Observer he/they

09-12-2009 16:44:21 UTC

Establishing arth, the noble successor to Mad Emperor Anthony, as a role model is probably not a good way of making your point :-P

I’m not trying to squash you - god knows that last dynasty could have used some rule-generation enthusiasm and creativity - but I generally quite like that the emperor role gives the steer, at least early on in the dynasty.

Klisz:

09-12-2009 16:45:58 UTC

Yeah, you have a point, in both paragraphs. Though arth has always had a bit of an air of authority, as have all players who’ve been around longer than me.

Excalabur:

09-12-2009 17:09:25 UTC

DC: the point is not that you know something I don’t.  The point is that you’re being a jerk about it: ‘neener neener neener, i’m bending the rules for no good reason’.  it’s childish, it encourages other, newer players to bend the rules, and so on.

Klisz:

09-12-2009 17:10:32 UTC

I don’t see how it’s bending the rules, but other than that you have a good point. I’ll stop.

Excalabur:

09-12-2009 17:10:54 UTC

Also, josh has said everything that I wanted said about why putting this out there is a bad idea.  I haven’t even read it for that exact reason.

NoOneImportant:

09-12-2009 17:15:19 UTC

>I generally quite like that the emperor role gives the steer

Josh, that sounds like a lot of bull.

Josh: Observer he/they

09-12-2009 17:16:48 UTC

Josh, that sounds like a lot of bull.

I won’t be cowed by you.

Josh: Observer he/they

09-12-2009 17:17:05 UTC

Josh, that sounds like a lot of bull.

I won’t be cowed by you.

NoOneImportant:

09-12-2009 17:33:57 UTC

>I won’t be cowed by you.

This is really quite childish, let’s moooove on.

Klisz:

09-12-2009 17:54:12 UTC

I’m just going to walk away now.

Qwazukee:

09-12-2009 18:24:53 UTC

imperial I don’t mind this if it’s what Wak wants

Bucky:

09-12-2009 19:01:38 UTC

against .  I don’t really want to have two dynasties separated by a few days.

Clucky: he/him

09-12-2009 21:45:42 UTC

Ignoring DC’s comments posted here (as I want to be nice), I don’t see anything wrong with posting rules suggestions like this. Actually making a proposal is going a little far—while a smart thinking emperor would just veto it, at some point we realized everyone is super impatient at the start of dynasties and cut the time needed for rules to pass to 12 hours. If an emperor can’t get on then, which is reasonable, a proposal he doesn’t want could pass. But simply posting a rule suggestion does none of that, so I don’t see the harm.

Apathetic Lizardman:

09-12-2009 21:58:25 UTC

I agree with Clucky. Proposals: no. Suggestions: yes.

Kevan: he/him

09-12-2009 22:11:13 UTC

I don’t know, the busy period at the start of a dynasty seems like the worst time to be posting space-taking, feedback-canvassing suggestions, to be reposted as proposals a few hours later once you’ve been reassured that people like the idea. Grit your teeth and use an actual proposal slot. If it’s great but flawed, someone else will run with it.

Excalabur:

09-12-2009 23:19:34 UTC

for

Excalabur:

09-12-2009 23:19:53 UTC

(that for was for Kevan)

Wakukee:

10-12-2009 01:57:06 UTC

Actually, I have a pretty clear idea of how I want wishes to work, as I will post shortly after my AA. Basically, you have to PM me the wish, which I will review and decide if it works or not. I will have certain abilities that I can do only when it is wished that I do them, and these will be listed. There will also be a list of things I CANNOT or WIll not do, such as granting more wishes, fulfilling wishes with more than one part, or stepping down as leader. Other things are fair game. A few I will refuse, but for the most part I am required to fulfill them. Also, there may later on be quick wishes, which I do not need to officially approve - a player need simply to make a post detailing the wish and make the change.

TrumanCapote:

10-12-2009 21:59:54 UTC

imperial

TrumanCapote:

10-12-2009 22:01:39 UTC

Just realized that a protosal is not the same thing as a proposal.  Hm…