Something like this? https://wiki.blognomic.com/index.php?title=TableTest

Best I can think of which is simple

well that’s what I was doing but take a look at what I have so far; imagine trying to move something in one element diagonally with a moderate amount of stuff in the other cells. I think it leads to an aversion to moving because it’s fairly cumbersome.

We could use a google sheets but it hasn’t been done before.

Something like this but better looking perhaps: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1bvDC2ITMCt4nKZjPi1bFVYmHqwrEEDkdlCdaMxJbA28/edit?usp=sharing

That’s not a bad idea. Does it have a history function that’s precise enough? How would we tell who’s who?
I don’t know if everyone is able to use the google sheets though; I have trouble getting to edit it since I currently have terrible upload/download speeds. It even timed out after a minute.

It does have a history thing, but you have to be logged into Google for it to show who did it so its not just “anonymous”: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1bvDC2ITMCt4nKZjPi1bFVYmHqwrEEDkdlCdaMxJbA28/edit#gid=0

We could also just comment what we do somewhere, because changes on external wikipages tend to be a bit hidden anyways (like how we had to comment on crates when we changed Stances back when Stances were at-will).

that link doesn’t work lol. I thought it would bring up the history. You can get it by clicking the “last edit was made X minutes ago” thing, anyways.

Ah, well I don’t think we’ll use it then. Who knows, some people might not have a google account or wouldn’t want to use a personal account for this purpose.
The logging thing is a good idea, however it’s not the crux of the issue here: actually making edits to the state of the table and making sure they’re correct is the difficult part, mostly because the table takes up a ton of vertical space in the wikiformatting

Looks like it’s possible to have wikitable rows actually written in rows if you use double pipes: example.

Hrm thats really good actually. Would’ve saved headaches in other dynasties lol, glad we have it now.

Hey that works perfectly!

Only downside I can see is that we can’t colour in individual cells (like we’ve done for past maps), but we could do something with zero-padding table cells and templates within each cell, if needed.

tfw Urban Dead nostalgia

BARHAH!