Saturday, July 12, 2025

Proposal: Axiom Regarding Intelligent Artifice

Withdrawn. Failed by Kevan.

Adminned at 13 Jul 2025 08:42:00 UTC

To the end of “Backronym”, add a paragraph:-

Wordsmiths are asked to avoid using chatbots and other large-language models to generate Backronyms or other text for the game, during this dynasty, and should declare if they have done this while this sentence was present in the ruleset.

No reason to think that anyone has been doing this, but we should probably foreground the Community Guideline on LLM text, since writing text is the main gameplay this dynasty and it’s a guideline that not everyone will be aware of. (It was only enacted a couple of months ago.)

Comments

DeactivatedUser4498:

12-07-2025 13:28:04 UTC

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As someone who is neutral on AI, I agree with this.

Chiiika: she/her

12-07-2025 17:25:42 UTC

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Chiiika: she/her

12-07-2025 17:33:37 UTC

for the sake of records; none of my previous attempts have been LLM-informed or LLM-generated; and none of my future attempts would be.

JonathanDark: he/him

12-07-2025 18:45:33 UTC

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Darknight: he/him

12-07-2025 19:02:38 UTC

for I didn’t use it but I tried on a lark with ai and it was an utter mess so wasn’t worth my trouble at the least

Kevan: Yard he/him

12-07-2025 19:06:58 UTC

Out of curiosity I tried it on generating backronyms (of unrelated strings), and for a technology that couldn’t accurately count the letters in a word last year, it did surprisingly well.

Josh: he/they

12-07-2025 19:50:04 UTC

for Should probably also disallow using it to generate Buzzword candidates.

Bucky:

12-07-2025 21:50:23 UTC

for I was unaware of this guideline, but still didn’t use generative AI. I did try to do a regular expression job title search on indeed.com only to find out it no longer allows them; but that’s not generative, it would have given a list of job titles people were actually using.

Clucky: he/him

12-07-2025 23:36:53 UTC

I thought we formally banned LLMs a few months ago? Did that proposal just not pass?

JonathanDark: he/him

13-07-2025 01:03:06 UTC

It wasn’t a formal ban, just the additional text that Kevan mentioned.

It is generally preferred, except where explicitly permitted by the dynastic ruleset, that players avoid the use of generative AI or LLMs when producing content for the game.

“Preferred” is definitely not an outright ban.

Trapdoorspyder: he/him

13-07-2025 01:22:29 UTC

for I would personally be interested in firming up the preexisting anti-ai text as well, despite the manner of unenforceability

Kevan: Yard he/him

13-07-2025 07:48:00 UTC

[Clucky] Yeah, this could have been a blog or Discord post, but a proposal and a dynastic rule seemed more likely to be seen by everyone - and it would also cover any players who joined later and caught up on the dynastic rules.

Kevan: Yard he/him

13-07-2025 08:41:35 UTC

against Actually, withdrawing this to get a slot back, I need to flag a loophole that could affect this round, and don’t want to risk waiting four hours on it.