Thursday, December 03, 2009

Proposal: All good boys must go to sleep

Vetoed, then self-killed, with a few against votes inbetween; also, I voted VETO -Darth

Adminned at 03 Dec 2009 06:37:23 UTC

Add the following text to the end of Rule 2.5.1 Basic Spells:

The spell Sleep has “TORPOR” as its Activation Sequence. Its Effect is “Chose an Apprentice. That Apprentice becomes Asleep.”

Add a new Rule to the Ruleset.  Call it “Awake or Asleep” and give it the following text:

Apprentices can be in one of two states, Awake or Asleep. This status shall be tracked in the GNDT under the heading “Asleep”, where a ‘Y’ value indicates the Apprentice is Asleep, and an ‘N’ value indicates the Apprentice is Awake. An Apprentice who becomes Asleep shall remain in such status for a period of 24 hours, at which time he shall become Awake. While an Apprentice is Asleep, he is unable to Cast Spells or take any Timed, Daily, or Weekly Actions.

Amend the GNDT to comply with the above new Rule, giving all Apprentices an initial “Asleep” value of ‘N’, subject to the following condition.

If at least half of all EVCs on this proposal also contain the letter “e”, set Darth Cliche’s initial status to Asleep.


Hi Darth!



12-03-2009 02:11:45 UTC

I think this should pass. for


12-03-2009 02:23:53 UTC

against on the general mechanic;  veto on the rider.  Proposing to lock a player out of the dynastic portion of the game until restored by proposal is unacceptable.


12-03-2009 02:24:38 UTC

I rathor dislaik tha ridor. imperial


12-03-2009 02:24:58 UTC

Posted at the same time as Bucky.

Apathetic Lizardman:

12-03-2009 02:32:33 UTC

Which spicific part of tha proposal is tha ridor? Haha.


12-03-2009 02:51:02 UTC

A rider is a part of a proposal which happens if a majority of players include a specific piece of text in their EVCs. In this case, the text is “e”.


12-03-2009 02:52:12 UTC

“set Darth Cliche’s initial status to Asleep”

As worded, Darth Cliche’s Status never *becomes* sleep, so he never wakes up.

Apathetic Lizardman:

12-03-2009 03:42:06 UTC

Should the correct wording be “set Darth Cliche’s Status to “Y”“?


12-03-2009 04:03:13 UTC

Also, new stats are time-consuming to add to the GNDT. Please don’t add them frivolously.


12-03-2009 04:09:12 UTC

@Bucky: Correction; Darth Cliche’s Status never *becomes* “Y”, so he never goes to sleep.


12-03-2009 04:10:00 UTC

Also against


12-03-2009 04:47:05 UTC

OK, I didn’t realize it was such a big deal to add to the GNDT. I’ll change my vote and self-kill. As far as the rider, the intent was to make DC sleep for 24-hours only, as per the standard sleep rule, not permanently.



12-03-2009 05:23:22 UTC

DC: that’s only true if their initial state is otherwise than empty.

note that this has already been vetoed.


12-03-2009 05:25:08 UTC

NOI: It’s not that hard to add stats.  the time-consuming part is that each player’s value of that stat has to be added by hand.  If the intial state is blank, it takes about 10 seconds.


12-03-2009 06:03:54 UTC

Excalabur: Thanks for the clarification. Would it have been worthwhile to have offered to do the manual value setting myself?

Also, I believe only the rider was vetoed… not that it matters much since I SK’d the entire proposal.


12-03-2009 06:14:40 UTC

Lol there is no line-item veto in Blognomic; when Bucky put the veto in there, the whole Proposal was vetoed.


12-03-2009 09:43:08 UTC

NOI: your vote is the last legal voting icon in the last comment you make containing a legal voting icon, subject to rules about changing your vote (you can’t un-self-kill, nor un-veto, a proposal) making later comments illegal. .