Call for Judgment: Bye Week
Postpone the date of each upcoming scheduled Sporting Event by three days.
Postpone the date of each upcoming scheduled Sporting Event by three days.
Idling myself. BlogNomic is now Dormant.
Add the following text to the end of the rule “Nomich”:
Unlike the other games, Nomich’s resolution procedure changes over time. After each match of Nomich that did not end in a Draw, the Bookie can and should secretly add one sentence to the procedure for scoring a Nomich play.
Add subrule called “Highlights” to the rule “Sports Resolution” and give it the following text:
A Results Post may include a sequence of Highlights for each of its Sporting Events, which are embellished but not deliberately misleading descriptions of occurrences during the Sporting Event’s resolution procedure.
In “Accusations”, after “If it is true, the Accused Punter is fined 20 Readies for tampering with a sporting fixture” add:-
; if the Accused Punter gained any Readies from Cashed Bets on that Event, they are also fined that amount of Readies
A punter caught successfully tampering with the outcome of an event should probably also forfeit their winnings from it.
On 23rd September Bandersnatch Hall played Gothmog Hall at Nomich. Bandersnatch Hall drew 8H, QH, JC, 10C, JS, AH, 3C. Gothmog Hall drew JH, 7S, KC, 7H, 10H, 6H, QD. Gothmog Hall won with the final score 60-74.
On 24th September Di Fieri played Scaletti at Giolitti. Di Fieri’s Pocket contained 8, 6, 12, 0, 10 4, 2. Scaletti’s Pocket contained 13, 1, 5, 3, 11, 9, 7. The Grand Canal was Devil. With the final score 42-49, Di Fieri won due to the Devil.
Timed out 1-3 with 1 DEF. Failed by JonathanDark.
Adminned at 25 Sep 2023 21:26:36 UTC
Add a new subrule to “Meddling” called “Private Security”. Give it the following text:
A Punter may contribute up to 20 Readies to an upcoming Sporting Event’s Security, provided that this amount does not exceed the amount of Readies they have, by privately notifying the Bookie of their intent to do so.
If at least one Ready has been contributed to a Sporting Event’s Security, and any Meddlings were planned for that Sporting Event, the Results Post for that Event shall mention that tampering was detected and Bookie shall privately notify each Punter who contributed a Ready of the target of a secretly randomly chosen Meddling planned on that Event.
If the number of total Readies that have been contributed to a Sporting Event’s Security equal or exceed ten times the number of planned Meddlings (including duplicates of the same Meddling planned by different Punters), and at least one such Meddling is planned, those Meddlings are all ineffective and the Results Post for that Event shall mention how many Meddlings were prevented. Whenever Meddlings are prevented this way, each Punter who contributed to the Sporting Event’s Security and did not plan one of those Meddlings loses Readies equal to their contribution. If the Sporting Event occurs and no Meddlings are prevented, each Punter who contributed to the Sporting Event’s Security loses a single Ready.
Timed out 4-0 with 1 DEF. Enacted by JonathanDark
Adminned at 25 Sep 2023 13:07:45 UTC
Remove the paragraph beginning “Whenever a Punter places a Bet with Stakes 10 or greater, they must” from the rule “Odds”.
Remove “Whenever a Punter places a Bet they must update Odds as described in the rule Odds.” from the rule “Betting”.
In “Betting”, replace “At any time, a Punter may place a Bet on any Sporting Event that they have not previously placed a Bet on. Bets placed are publicly tracked and must have the following elements:” with:-
At any time, a Punter may place a Bet on any Sporting Event that they have not previously placed a Bet on by privately announcing this to the Bookie. Bets placed are privately tracked by the Bookie and must have the following elements:
In “Sports Resolution”, after “and summarising all random choices that were made as part of determining those events’ results (excluding Meddlings).”, add:-
It should also state how many Readies each Punter won (if any) from each of those Events.
Given that we’re already in the zone of players trying to place bets in the very final few seconds of a days-long time period, maybe the casting of bets should just be private, but outcomes still public.
Timed out 2 votes to 3. Failed by Kevan.
Adminned at 25 Sep 2023 10:29:12 UTC
Add a Meddling to Boxing:-
* Meddling (Dive): The Participant loses the Match (unless both Participants were Meddled to Dive, in which case the Match is a Draw).
Timed out 3 votes to 0. Enacted by Kevan.
Adminned at 25 Sep 2023 10:27:20 UTC
Add a new dynastic rule to the ruleset called A Good Day At The Races, with the following text:
No Sporting Events may be scheduled to take place on or after Saturday 14th of October 2023.
If it is, or is after, Saturday 14th of October 2023 then the Bookie should, at their first opportunity, make a post disclosing the Readies available to each Punter. At that time, the single Punter with the highest number of Readies has achieved Victory. If at that point there is no single Punter who has the highest number of Readies then the tied Punter who most recently placed a winning Bet has achieved Victory.
In the rule Form Sheet, change “If at any point the Form Sheet does not show at least one Sporting Event per day for the next seven days then the Bookie may randomly select a Sporting Event, its Participants (using a Participant Selection method) and its Odds, for each upcoming day without a Sporting Event and add them to the list, until there are Sporting Events scheduled for the following ten days” to read:
If at any point the Form Sheet does not show at least one Sporting Event per day up until 13th October 2023 then the Bookie may randomly select a Sporting Event, its Participants (using a Participant Selection method) and its Odds, for each upcoming day without a Sporting Event and add them to the list, until there are Sporting Events scheduled until 13th October 2023.
Reached Quorum 4-0. Enacted by JonathanDark.
Adminned at 24 Sep 2023 05:34:53 UTC
In the Betting Shop, replace all gamestate instances of “DiFieri” with “Di Fieri”. If any dynastic actions were taken using the gamestate value “DiFieri”, treat those as having been taken using the value “Di Fieri”.
There’s rules about punctuation in the ruleset, but it’s less clear when it comes to gamestate and whether a value like “DiFieri” can automatically be treated as equivalent to “Di Fieri”.
On 21st September, Gothmog Hall played Ichneumon Hall at Nomich. The hands dealt were as follows: Gothmog 2C, 5C, 8D, 8C, 6D, KS, KH; Ichneumon JC, 7C, 2H, 8S, AC, 5H, 3D. Gothmog won with a score of 55 to 45.
On 22nd September, Micheli played Paparoni at Giolitti. Micheli’s Pocket was 0, 4, 11, 12, 7, 9, 13. Paparoni’s Pocket was 1, 2, 3, 8, 5, 6, 10. The Grand Canal was Impostor. The score was 56 - 35 and Micheli won.
Reached Quorum 5-0. Enacted by JonathanDark.
Adminned at 24 Sep 2023 05:32:10 UTC
In the rule “The Gamblers”, in the subrule “Betting”, replace the text “that has not yet occurred”, with this text:
in which the Bet was placed before the Sporting Event had occurred
Currently, the rule for Betting does not prohibit placing a Bet on a Sporting Event that has already occurred. And, since the wording for Cash all Bets does not state to do it only once after a Sporting Event has occurred, I believe I can call for Cash all Bets to be performed on it with my current Bet. Since I spotted the scam, I’d prefer to be the only Punter to be able to take advantage of it before it is fixed.
Kevan pointed out the rule that prevents this from happening, so instead I’ll fix the issue pointed out by Bucky.
Reached quorum 4 votes to 1. Enacted by Kevan.
Adminned at 23 Sep 2023 09:46:54 UTC
In the ruleset and gamestate, rename the Boxing Participants as follows:
Bob to Roberto “Silver Phantom” Calderon
Tom to Wild Man Danny Bannister
Alice to Alicia “Thunder City Cobra” Woo
Burt to Rebekka “The Sandman” Dante
On 19 September The Killing Joke won against Credit Score F at Blogbot, 15 to 11. No random selections were made.
On 20 September Di Fieri and Scaletti drew at Giolitti, 39 to 39. The Grand Canal was Star.
This boring results post was brought to you by Bucky, who would prefer the role of Emperor be as soul-crushingly tedious as possible
Pokes idles out after seven days without a post or comment. Quorum drops to 3.
Enacts 4-0 with quorum in favor. -Bucky
Adminned at 19 Sep 2023 18:15:37 UTC
The proposal Yellow Card, enacted with timestamp “19 Sep 2023 13:59:18 UTC”, had the following provision:
Remove all upcoming Soccer, Estate Agent Wrestling and Blogbots matches from the Form Sheet. Remove all Bets on those matches.
The enacting admin, using this provision, removed a Blogbots match scheduled for September 19 as well as the bet on it. However, per the rule Sports Resolution, “A day’s sporting events all take place on that day at exactly noon UTC”, or roughly two hours earlier. Therefore, the Blogbots match wasn’t upcoming, it had already happened and therefore should not have been removed.
Revert the removal by proposal of the Blogbots match on September 19, and the removal of the bet placed on that match.
Timed out with more votes FOR than AGAINST, 2-1 with 2 DEFs. Enacted by JonathanDark.
Adminned at 21 Sep 2023 22:11:55 UTC
In the rule Sports Resolution, rewrite the first sentence to read:
The Bookie may generate the resolution, using their Resolution Method for that sport, to any Sporting Event in advance of the time at which it takes place.
Rewrite the rule Sporting Events to read as follows:
The Sports that can occur as part of a Sporting Event are as follows:
* Nomich
* ClingBoom
* Giolitti
* Blogbots
* Boxing
Each Sport has public elements and secret elements. The public elements that make up each Sport are detailed in subrules to this rule. The subrules to this rule also specify which secret elements are tracked. Secret elements to a sport are kept privately by the Bookie.As a minimum, a Sport should have the following public elements: a list of potential Participants, a number of Required Participants for a Sporting Event, and a list of Potential Outcomes. A Sport should also have a method of resolution as a secret element, which the Bookie should set once before the first time a Sporting Event involving that Sport is resolved, and then only amend as directed by the ruleset.
Sport Participants may have qualities, which are usually specific to and defined by the respective Sport. When a quality is secret, it is privately tracked by the Bookie. When a quality is public, it is publicly tracked. Whenever a Participant exists who does not have a value for quality required by a Sport for which they are a Potential Participant, then the Bookie should (and must, before resolving any Sporting Event in which that Participant is a Participant), at their first opportunity, generate that quality by any mechanism defined for that quality, or by generating a random legal value if no other mechanism is defined.
Each Participant in each Sport has a public value for Track Record. To initialise a Participant’s Track Record, the Bookie should generate 10 dummy Sporting Events that involve that Participant, and set their Track Record to the number of times in that 10 Sporting Event streak they won. Thereafter, each Participant’s Track Record is increased by 1 every time they win a Sporting Event.
Repeal the subrules Soccer, Bloggsball, and Estate Agent Wrestling. Remove any upcoming Sporting Events that utilise any of these as a Sport. Remove any Bets for any Sporting Events thus removed.
In each of the remaining subrules to the rule Sporting Events, replace the Method of Resolution with the following:
Secret Element: Method of Resolution.
Reached quorum 4 votes to 1. Enacted by Kevan.
Adminned at 21 Sep 2023 08:10:47 UTC
Remove “For each Meddling that is planned for an Event, the Punter who performed it loses 10 Readies at the start of that Event.” from “Sports Resolution”.
In “Meddling”, replace “A Punter who has at least 10 Readies may plan a Sport’s Meddling” with:-
A Punter may plan a Sport’s Meddling
Add a subrule to “Meddling” called “Accusations”:-
A Punter may Accuse another Punter of having Meddled with a specific Participant in a single, specific Sporting Event which has taken place on an earlier day, by making a blog post to that effect. This is known as an Accusation Post.
If an Accusation Post exists which hasn’t been Investigated, and which does not repeat the accused Punter, Participant and Event of an earlier Accusation Post, the Bookie should Investigate it by saying in a comment on that post whether the Accusation is true:
* If it is true, the Accused Punter is fined 20 Readies for tampering with a sporting fixture
* If it is not true, the Accusing Punter is fined 10 Readies for wasting the Bookie’s time(When a Punter is fined an amount of Readies, they lose that amount.)
Changing Meddling from a cost up front to a fine if caught.
Enacted by quorum 5-0. -Bucky
Adminned at 20 Sep 2023 21:56:55 UTC
Add the following text to the rule Gliotti as the fourth bullet point:
* Odds: 9-to-5 for outcomes where a Participant wins, and 10-to-3 for a Draw
For each Gliotti Sporting Event on or after September 21st, 2023, set its odds according to the new rule unless it already has a Bet placed on it.
Gliotti seems to be the worst game to bet on because it’s roughly a three way split between the outcomes but gets default odds that are based on a two way split. These odds tip the advantage for the Punters to about the same extent as the 11-10 does on a two-way bet.
On 18 September the Bloggbot Master Generator determines a 13 round game, with 🐈 The Aristocrats 🐈 first up to pitch. It was a fast-paced and high-scoring game, with Brawny Bloggers on both teams finding plenty of gaps between the defences of the Pitcher teams. At the final gong, 🐈 The Aristocrats 🐈 maintained their first-mover advantage over 🚀 The Raccoons 🚀 in a 6-5 nailbiter. 🐈 The Aristocrats 🐈 win!
Reached quorum 4 votes to 1. Enacted by Kevan.
Adminned at 19 Sep 2023 13:59:18 UTC
Remove all upcoming Soccer, Estate Agent Wrestling and Blogbots matches from the Form Sheet. Remove all Bets on those matches.
In the list marked “The Sports that can occur as part of a Sporting Event are as follows:”, remove Soccer, Estate Agent Wrestling and Blogbots.
In “Form Sheet”, replace “for each upcoming day and add them to the list” with:-
for each upcoming day without a Sporting Event and add them to the list
The three complex sports are feeling like the muddiest part of the dynasty to me, right now - they’re too dense to get an instinctive player-level understanding of, and there are too many of them for me to want to spend time writing scripted simulations to inform my betting. So a straw poll on whether a quorum are feeling the same. I’m ambivalent on whether we should simplify them, remove them or black box their method of operation.
Enacts 5-0 with quorum in favor. -Bucky
Adminned at 18 Sep 2023 15:37:26 UTC
For each Sporting Event allegedly scheduled for the month of November in this revision of the dynastic gamestate tracking document, set its date to the corresponding day in September instead and uphold its creation.
On this revision, Josh (apparently accidentally) rescheduled all the events to November and added new ones. It’s illegal for him to schedule events with a gap like that, but he’d just need to redo the same scheduling process in the correct month anyway.
Enacts 4-0 with a quorum in favor. -Bucky
Adminned at 18 Sep 2023 22:08:20 UTC
In the rule “Odds”, change
Whenever a Punter places a Bet
to
Whenever a Punter places a Bet with Stakes 10 or greater
This doesn’t forbid team play where one player uses a small bet to adjust the odds for teammates’ large bets, it just makes such tactics not dirt cheap.
Darknight idles out after seven days without a post or comment. Quorum remains 4.
On 16 September I. O. Yoo, fresh off of finding a buyer for his $4.2m listing in the Malibu Hills, sauntered into the ring with the swagger of a champion, ready to defend his heavyweight belt! The crowd went wild - furious boos mixed with a smattering of lusty cheers - everyone loves a heel! From the other entrance comes I. M. Eyeron - she’s just listed a $2.2m property in the OC and the crowd thinks she’s on the up! In the opening seconds of the bout, Eyeron has the momentum - oh! She has Yoo in a chokehold! Yoo comes back by laying in some heavy elbows but Eyeron hits a pair of arm drags and a drop toe hold. Eyeron body slams Yoo and - oh! She tells him that she’s replacing him as lead broker on the Sunset Drive listing! That’s sent Yoo into a complete spin - and the ref confirms it - he’s out for the count! I. M. Eyeron wins!
On 17 September West Cresci Albion met Feltwhistle Rovers in the division cup. West Cresci looked the sharper team and were ahead thanks to an early strike by Eduardo van Nestor but in the dying seconds of the match Juney Haniver slotted away a tidy header for the Rovers to even the match up. With the score at 1-1 at full time, this was a well-deserved draw.
Enacts 5-0 with a Quorum in favor. -Bucky
Adminned at 18 Sep 2023 00:22:12 UTC
In the rule “Blogbots”, change “n+3 spaces, where n is the acting participant’s Melee score” to “n+1 spaces inclusive, where n is the acting participant’s Melee score” and “n spaces, where n is the acting participant’s Ranged score” to “n+3 spaces inclusive, where n is the acting participant’s Ranged score”
Add the following text to the end of the rule “Blogbots” as a new paragraph if it’s not already present in that rule:
After a Blogbots event, each Participant’s Chassis is restored to what it was before the event.
Set following Blogbots’ Chassis values to the corresponding numbers:
The Dark Lord: 5
Hard Hat: 3
Ducktank: 4
The Killing Joke: 4
Not only haven’t the damaged bots from the last two bouts been fixed, but the ranged weapons aren’t working beyond their bot’s melee ranges!
Fewer than a quorum not voting AGAINST. Failed 1 vote to 3 by Kevan.
Adminned at 17 Sep 2023 17:47:14 UTC
In the rule “Sports Resolution”, after
summarising all random choices that were made as part of determining those events’ results (excluding Meddlings).
add the sentence:
If the rules for the sport define a Scorecard, the Result Post must include all the information about an event specified by the Scorecard.
In the rule “Betting”, after the step:
For each Bet whose Outcome did not occur, decrease the Readies of the betting Punter by the amount of the Stake.
add the step:
If the rules for the Sport define what a Hint for that sport is, for each Bet on the Sporting Event, send the betting Punter a random Hint from those that don’t involve the Secret Qualities of non-Participants.
Add the following text to the end of the rule “ClingBoom”:
* Scorecard: If there is a winner, the number of their remaining hit points.
Add the following text to the end of the rule Bloggsball:
* Scorecard: The difference between the two Participants’ Points.
* Hint: whether, after the match, a Potential Participant’s Brawn is above or below a certain integer between 2 and 19.
Add the following text to the end of the rule “Estate Agent Wrestling”:
* Scorecard: How much Contribution each Participant gained or lost from each combination for which that amount is nonzero.
* Hint: One move from the sequence of a Potential Participant’s Finishing Move, including its ordinal position within the Finishing Move.
Add the following text to the end of the rule “Blogbots”:
* Scorecard: If there is a Winner, the winner’s Chassis when they won.
* Hint: One order from a Potential Participant’s Script, including its ordinal position within the Script.After a Blogbots event, each Participant’s Chassis is restored to what it was before the event.
On 14th September the big match in the Achepelagic League was between Ducktank and Dark Lord. Ducktank is a crowd favourite, a ranged specialist who isn’t too shabby at melee either, while Dark Lord is a capable all-rounder with a musly chassis. Ducktank was drawn the 4 position which puts Dark Lord at 16, and then the blue light went off, Dark Lord started surging forward - briefly dipping into DuckTank’s range but then closing to melee just as quickly. DuckTank put in some great licks while Dark Lord was closing but once last year’s finalist was in melee range the mighty Duck had no response! After 21 round the judges called it - TKO! Dark Lord wins!
On 15th September the 4,817th ClingBoom Contest took place. This was a raucus match but one which was ultimately defined by the glut of buzzsaws in the arena - a scenario that clearly appeals to Buzzsaw Darth Cliche, as he sent Cheesecutter Purplebeard and Acid Yoda off in Round 3 and Laser Mideg shortly after. Buzzsaw Darth Cliche wins!
Timed out and enacted 3-0 by JonathanDark.
Adminned at 16 Sep 2023 19:15:47 UTC
In the rule “ClingBoom”, change “an ordered list of 20 traps” to “an ordered list of 8 traps”.
In the rule “Giolitti”, change
“Otherwise the game is a draw.” to “If neither Participant wins, the game is a draw.”
In the rule “Bloggsball”, change “has their Level permanently increased by 1” to “has their Level permanently increased by 1 before determining the number of rounds”.
In the rule “Estate Agent Wrestling”, move the entry
Three Leaps and no Kicks, Punches, or Grapples: -3 Contribution (to a minimum of zero)
to the end of the list of combinations.
In the rule “Blogbots”, change
that Bot is Trashed; if one Participant in a Blogbots Sporting Event is not Trashed then they have won
to
that Bot is Trashed. If one Participant in a Blogbots Sporting Event is Trashed and the other isn’t, the non-Trashed participant has won
Add the following to the end of the rule “Sports Resolution” as a new paragraph:
If a Sport’s resolution procedure doesn’t say when it ends, it ends whenever one or more of its listed Potential Outcomes occurs.
The ClingBoom change should only affect Arena Tampering.
The Estate Agent Wrestling clause removes an ambiguity about whether the -3 to a minimum of 0 can offset the items later in the list.
Reached quorum 5 votes to 0. Enacted by Kevan.
Adminned at 16 Sep 2023 16:59:01 UTC
Make JonathanDark an admin
I would like to apply to be an admin. I found the Admin Manual wiki page, but I didn’t see any criteria, so I assume it’s just up to a vote.
Enacting 5-0, quorum for. Josh already entered the ruleset edit. -Bucky
Adminned at 16 Sep 2023 15:24:13 UTC
In the rule “Betting”, change
an outcome (defined in the rule for the Sport of that Sporting Event)
to
an outcome (from the Potential Outcomes for the Sport of that Sporting Event)
Timed out and enacted, 3-2. Josh
Adminned at 16 Sep 2023 09:55:38 UTC
In the rule Form Sheet, change “optionally, its Odds” to “its Odds”.
In the same rule, change “and the required number of Participants for that Sport; it can also have an Odds, and should (if it occurred in the past)” to “an Odds, and the required number of Participants for that Sport; it should also (if it occurred in the past)”.
Add a new subrule to the rule Form Sheet, called Odds, with the following text:
All Potential Outcomes on each Sporting Event have Odds, which are the Odds on that outcome being offered by the Bookie. Odds are expressed in the form “X-to-Y” or “X:Y”, where X and Y are integers greater than 0, and are listed next to each Potential Outcome. When a Sporting Event is created, the values of X and Y for each Odds must be determined using the rules for the Sport identified in the Sporting Event. If no such rules for determining Odds exist for a Sport, then Odds for all outcomes are the default value, which is 11:10.
Whenever a Punter places a Bet, they must, for each Outcome of the Sporting Event for that Bet, increase the X in the Odds for that outcome by the 1; then they increase the Y of the Odds of the selected Outcome for the selected Sporting Event by the Stake of their Bet, divided by 10, and then rounded down to the nearest integer (to a minimum of 1).
Change the rule Betting to read as follows:
At any time, a Punter may place a Bet on any Sporting Event that they have not previously placed a Bet on. Bets placed are publicly tracked and must have the following elements:
* The name of the Punter placing the Bet
* A single, specific Sporting Event (identified by the Sport and the date on which it will occur) that has not yet occurred
* An outcome (defined in the rule for the Sport of that Sporting Event)
* A Stake (which must be a positive quantity of Readies that is not greater than the amount of Readies that Punter has, minus the Stakes of any other open Bets that Punter has)
* A Purchase Odds (which is the Odds on the selected Outcome at the time at which the Bet is placed, before Odds are updated on the basis of their own Bet)Whenever a Punter places a Bet they must update Odds as described in the rule Odds.
After a Sporting Event has occurred, the Bookie should Cash all Bets for that Sporting Event, as an atomic action with the following steps:
* Remove all such Bets from public tracking
* For each Bet’s whose Outcome occured, increase the Readies of the betting Punter by the amount of the Stake multiplied by X and divided by Y, where X and Y are the values from the Purchase Odds of that Bet.
* For each Bet whose Outcome did not occur, decrease the Readies of the betting Punter by the amount of the Stake.
On 13 September, the BlogBot Archepelaic League returned! Opening the new season is The Killing Joke vs Hard Hat, which is a little mystifying as we all thought Hard Hat’s pilot was made into a human sacrifice at the end of the last season.
But that’s Blogbots for you! Always a twist!
The Killing Joke starts in the number 4 position, a ranged specialist with a hardened ceramic chassis and little to no melee capability worth speaking of. Hard Hat glowers at it from position 16, a capable all-rounder with a noticeable predeliction for melee carnage and a somewhat flimsy chassis, compared to the competition. There’s the blue light - they’re off!
And Hard Hat is just sitting there! The Killing Joke is cycling through a pattern of moving, attempting to melee (despite its lack of capability) and very occasionally popping off a ranged attack, but Hard Hat is laying down a hard surpressing fire of artillery, meaning that sooner or later Joke will have to cross the fire line - which he does, and immediately starts getting shredded! Joke has range to fire back but Hard Hat’s rate of fire is just greater, and even that plating can’t do enough to keep Joke safe. Hard Hat wins by TKO!
Reached quorum 4 votes to 1. Enacted by Kevan.
Adminned at 14 Sep 2023 13:24:38 UTC
Set the status of the rule “Reinitialisation [Inactive]” to Active.
Reached quorum 5 votes to 0. Enacted by Kevan.
Adminned at 14 Sep 2023 13:23:23 UTC
In the rule “Form Sheet”, or “Sporting Events” if it exists, after
summarising all random choices that were made as part of determining those events’ results (excluding Meddlings).
add
If the event’s resolution was not generated, this fact shall be disclosed, and the event is considered cancelled and any actions dependent on it occurring - aside from removing Bets on it from public tracking - are skipped.
In the rule “Meddling”, after
A Punter who has at least 10 Readies may plan a Sport’s Meddling, applying it to a specific Participant in a single, specific Event of that Sport (identified by the Sport and the date on which it will occur) that has not yet occurred, by privately informing the Bookie of this.
add
If the Bookie does not receive the attempt to plan a Meddling until after the corresponding Event’s resolution has been generated, that attempt is considered untimely; it does not result in the Meddling being planned, and the Bookie shall privately inform the Punter who sent it that it was not timely.
Removes a couple of cases where, if Josh’s behavior didn’t line up with the schedule, Punters could lose Readies to no effect through no fault of their own.
Enacted 4-0. Josh
Adminned at 13 Sep 2023 17:02:54 UTC
Rename the rule “Clingboom” to “ClingBoom”, and replace “Clingboom” with “ClingBoom” wherever else it appears in the ruleset and the Betting Shop page of the wiki.
I’m unidling myself. Quorum remains 4.
On 12 September the four eternally-reincarnated Gladiators of the ClingBoom arena met for the 4,816th time. Acid Yoda couldn’t get a look in, falling swiftly behind to a laser trap and an arena buzzsaw before being taken out by a slicing cheesecutter. Cheesecutter Purplebeard did slightly better, holding on to the midway mark, before being shoved into an acid pit and burning away. This left Buzzsaw Darth Cliche and Laser Mideg to scrap it out, but right at the buzzer and StickyBomb dispenser starting tossing explosives around randomly and both Gladiators were caught in the crossfire.
The result is a draw through mass extinction. We’ll scrape as much DNA as we can together to resonstitute the players before Friday’s 4,817th bout.
Just started a big step in job training and I’ve already fell behind in this Nomic. I’ll be back in the next one… Or the next one %-P
Withdrawn. Josh
Adminned at 13 Sep 2023 17:02:03 UTC
Add a new rule named “Loans” and give it the following text:
There are Loan Sharks who are available to service Loans to Punters. Each Loan Shark has the following publicly-tracked values:
* Name
* Minimum Readies: A Punter requesting a Loan from this Loan Shark must have equal to or greater than this amount of Readies.
* Maximum Loan: The maximum amount of Readies a Punter may request in a Loan from this Loan Shark.
* Rate: The interest rate of Loans from this Loan Shark, represented by a rational number rounded to 2 decimal places between 0.01 and 1.00 inclusive.At any time, a Punter may request a Loan by privately informing the Bookie of the name of a Loan Shark and the amount of the Loan as a number between 1 and the Maximum Loan for the requested Loan Shark. Upon receiving the request, if it is valid and the Punter does not already have a Loan with the requested Loan Shark, the Bookie should, at their earliest opportunity, privately track a new Loan for this Punter and then add the amount of the Loan to the Punter’s Readies. The information tracked with a Loan is the following:
* The name of the Punter who requested the Loan
* Loan Balance, which is an amount defaulting to the amount requested
* The Name of the Loan Shark
* The Rate of the Loan Shark.
* The Countdown, which is a number defaulting to 7Once each Day, for each Loan tracked, the Bookie shall multiply the Loan Balance by the Rate, round this to the nearest integer, and add the result to the Loan Balance, then subtract 1 from the Countdown. If the Countdown for a Loan is 0 after this action, the Bookie shall perform the Delinquency action, which is an atomic action with the following steps:
* Set the Countdown for this Loan to its default value
* If the Punter associated with this Loan is not already Delinquent, make a Story Post naming the Punter and describing them as Delinquent, using any flavour text of the Bookie’s choosing as long as it doesn’t contain the name of any other Punter.A Punter whose name has been mentioned as Delinquent by the Bookie in a Story Post is considered Delinquent for 24 hours from the date and time of that Story Post, after which time they are no longer Delinquent. While a Punter is Delinquent, they may not take any dynastic actions.
At any time, a Punter may request the Loan Balance of a Loan from the Bookie by referencing the Name of the Loan Shark associated with that Loan. The Bookie should respond as soon as they are able when such a request is received.
At any time, a Punter may Pay Loan by sending a request to the Bookie with a positive amount of Readies no greater than the Punter’s current Readies and the Name of the Loan Shark associated with that Loan. Upon receiving the request, if it is valid, the Bookie should, at their earliest opportunity, subtract that amount of Readies from the Punter and from the Loan Balance of the matching Loan. If the Loan Balance is 0 or less, the Bookie should remove the Loan from tracking.
You can use Loans to your advantage, if you play your luck right, or you could get into a lot of trouble if your luck runs out. I want to see if this Proposal passes before I suggest actual Loan Sharks, but I do have some in mind.
Enacted 5-0. Josh
Adminned at 13 Sep 2023 17:00:59 UTC
In the rule “The Gamblers”, subrule “Betting”, before the text “a single, specific Sporting Event” add this text:
The name of the Punter placing the Bet,
Right now, it’s not required to have the name of the Punter next to each bet placed. While it’s possible to track down who owns each Bet by using the wiki edit history, it will be far easier if we could all just glance at the gamestate page for this information.
The Form Sheet has been updated with Participants.
Enacted 5-0. Josh
Adminned at 13 Sep 2023 16:58:29 UTC
If Proposal: Boxing (not that kind) was enacted, change the name of the rule Box Packing to Boxing, and add Boxing to the list of Sports in the rule Form Sheet.
In the rule BlogBots, change the Effect of the ‘Use melee weapon’ BlogScript command to:
If the acting Participant is between one and n+3 spaces, where n is the acting participant’s Melee score, of the other Participant, the other Participant takes 1 Chassis damage; otherwise nothing happens.
In the same table change the effect of the ‘Use ranged weapon’ command to:
If the acting Participant is between three and n spaces, where n is the acting participant’s Ranged score, of the other Participant, the other Participant takes 1 Chassis damage; otherwise nothing happens.
Enacted 5-0. Josh
Adminned at 13 Sep 2023 16:57:48 UTC
In “Nomich”, replace “The Bookie shall randomly deal each Participating Participant 7 cards from a standard 52 card deck. The Participant that scores the highest along the metric found here wins.” with:-
The Bookie shall randomly deal each Participating Participant 7 cards from the same standard 52 card deck as their “play”. The Participant whose play scores the most points wins.
Add to that rule:-
The score value of a play is determined as follows:-
* The play with the largest cumulative face value scores 5 points. In Nomich, an Ace is considered have a face value of 1, a Jack to have a face value of 11, a Queen to have a face value of 12, and a King to have a face value of 13.
* A card with a value of 3 or 7 is a Bonus Card. A play scores additional 3 points for each Bonus Card in it.
* Any play containing the Big Bonus Card JD scores an additional 4 points.
* The Queen of Spades’s face value becomes -12 unless it is in the same play as two Heart cards.
As revealed on the Discord a couple of days ago, the fact that the scoring rules of Nomich are being tracked on a dynastic history page means that they are not technically gamestate.
Also making it explicit that both hands are dealt from the same deck, which I think is how the original was played.
Enacted 4-0. Josh
Adminned at 13 Sep 2023 16:54:18 UTC
Repeal the rule The Winners Circle.
Make all of the contents of the rule Form Sheet after the first paragraph into a separate rule, called Sporting Events, including moving the subrules of the former rule to sit beneath the new one. Rewrite the contents of the rule Form Sheet as follows:
There is a publicly tracked list of Sporting Events, each of which must have a Date, a Sport, and the required number of Participants for that Sport; it can also have an Odds, and should (if it occurred in the past) have an Outcome (being the result of the Sporting Event) and a list of Winners (being the list of Punters whose whose Bet matched the Outcome of that Sporting Event). This list is called the Form Sheet.
If at any point the Form Sheet does not show at least one Sporting Event per day for the next seven days then the Bookie may randomly select a Sporting Event, its Participants (using a Participant Selection method) and, optionally, its Odds, for each upcoming day and add them to the list, until there are Sporting Events scheduled for the following ten days. If any existing Sporting Event does not have Participants, the Bookie should select Participants using Participant Selection for each such Sporting Event as soon as possible.
Move the paragraph that starts “The Bookie may generate the resolution” from the rule Sporting Events to a new subrule of the rule Form Sheet, called Sports Resolution.
In the rule Form Sheet, change the sentence which starts “The Bookie may optionally choose a Sporting Event to have Odds” to “When the Bookie adds Odds to a Sporting Event, those Odds are expressed in the form “X-to-Y”, where X and Y are integers greater than 0, and are be listed next to each Potential Outcome.” Then move the paragraph in which that sentence appears and the two subsequent paragraphs to the rule Sporting Events.
Just a bit of tidying up in the ruleset.
The Giolitti Masters game for 10 September and the Soccernomic World Cup game for 11 September were both cancelled due to unidentifiable players. The games forecast for 12/09 onwards are not due to take place, due to new technology allowing for player identification having been invented.
i idle; quorum drops to 4. i liked blaseball, and the sight of giolitti’s name in the opening proposal made me quite excited! but an urgent life situation came up — you know how it goes sometimes. i’ll probably be back in a dynasty or two!
On 9 September a scheduled ClingBoom match was cancelled due to ongoing quantum uncertainty regarding the identity of the competitors.
Enacted 4-0. Josh
Adminned at 11 Sep 2023 20:54:13 UTC
If the Bookie cast no vote on this proposal, or voted AGAINST it, it has no further effect.
In “Form Sheet”, replace “detailing all sporting events that have taken place that have not appeared in a previous Results Post, and any results that may be associated with those events” with:-
detailing all sporting events that have taken place that have not appeared in a previous Results Post, including any results that may be associated with those events, and summarising all random choices that were made as part of determining those events’ results (excluding Meddlings)
Not sure how plausible this is for the mighty spreadsheet that I assume the Bookie is running, but if it makes any sense it’d be good to get televised blow-by-blow coverage of each match rather than a plain “X beat Y” teleprinter outcome. Punters will be able to get a feel for each sport and how close its matches might have been, and can possibly deduce whether or not any Meddlings happened.
Timed out and enacted, 3-1. Josh
Adminned at 11 Sep 2023 20:53:19 UTC
Add a new subrule to the rule Form Sheet, called Box Packing:
* Potential Participants: Bob, Tom, Alice, Burt
* Required Participants: 2
* Potential Outcomes: X Participant wins; Draw
* Method of Resolution: Generate a 6x6 square grid with each space in the grid randomly containing the name of a Participating Participant. Mark every space that is a part of a line of four spaces horizontally, vertically, or diagonally that all have the same name. The Participant with the most marked spaces containing their name wins; otherwise, it is a draw.
* Meddling (Repackage): After the board is generated, but before marking, one random space that does not contain their name is changed to their name, if it exists.
(Lulu 1/Zach 1)
Unidling myself. Qurorum is now 5.
Enacted 4-0. Josh
Adminned at 11 Sep 2023 15:45:47 UTC
Remove the word “secretly” everywhere it appears in the dynastic ruleset.
Then to the end of “Form Sheet”, add:-
Whenever the Bookie is required to make a selection in a random manner, they should instead do this in a secretly random manner.
Uphold all random selections that Bookie has attempted to make so far this dynasty which were required to be at random but were not made using the Dice Roller.
Following on from Peter Piper, we’ve actually got a few other pure “randomly” selections in the ruleset right now, and are likely to accidentally write more of them in future. Should give the Bookie a pass to resolve them all secretly.
Enacted 4-0. Josh
Adminned at 11 Sep 2023 15:42:27 UTC
In the rule “Form Sheet”, after the text “It lists the upcoming Sporting Events for at least the next seven days ” add the following text:
and the Participants selected for that Sporting Event
and replace the text “may randomly select a sporting event for each upcoming day and add it to the list” with this text:
may secretly randomly select a Sporting Event and select its Participants (using a Participant Selection method) for each upcoming day and add them to the list. If any existing Sporting Event does not have Participants, the Bookie should select Participants using Participant Selection for each such Sporting Event as soon as possible.
At the end of the rule, add this text:
Participant Selection is the method by which Participants are selected for a Sporting Event from the list of Potential Participants for that Sport. If a Participant Selection method is not specified for a Sport, the default Participant Selection method is for the Bookie to secretly randomly choose the Participants.
In the subrule “Soccer” add the following text:
Participant Selection: Round-Robin Tournament, without a tournament winner, selecting the match-up order secretly randomly. After each Participant has played every other Participant once, the Bookie shall reset the Particpant Selection tracking for Soccer and start the Round-Robin Tournament selection over.
I replaced “randomly select a Sporting Event” with “secretly randomly select a Sporting Event”, even though the results are public, because otherwise according to the Appendix rules, any “randomly” selected value must be determined using the Dice Roller.
Enacted 5-0. Josh
Adminned at 11 Sep 2023 15:40:59 UTC
Add a new subrule to the rule Form Sheet, called Blogbots:
* Potential Participants: The Dark Lord, Hard Hat, CarolAIna Reaper, B.A.D., Credit Score: F, Bad Door, The Killing Joke, Ducktank
* Required Participants: 2
* Potential Outcomes: X Participant Wins, X Participant Wins in Sudden Death, All Participants Trashed
* Public Quality: Scores for Chassis, Melee and Ranged, each of which must be between 1 and 6; a special weapon, which may be one of Flipper, Taser, Ram, or blank, initially being set to to blank.
* Private Quality: A Botscript, made up of six orders, each of which must be one of: “move forward one space”, “use melee weapon”, “use ranged weapon”, or “use special weapon”.
* Resolution Method: The Sporting Event takes place on a linear track of 19 spaces, numbers from 1 on the left to 19 on the right. One Participant is allocated the 4 space (the ‘left bot’), the other is allocated the 16 space (the ‘right bot’). The Bookie then resolves the Sporting Event as follows: they put into effect the BotScript of each Participant, starting with the first line of the BotScript of the left bot, continuing to the first line of the right bot, then moving to the second line of the Botscript of the left bot, and carrying on in that fashion, looping back to the first line of the respective BotScripts after the sixth. If at any point a Participant has a Chassis of 0, that Bot is Trashed; if one Participant in a Blogbots Sporting Event is not Trashed then they have won.The effects of different BotScript lines are as follows:
{| class="wikitable"
|+ BotScript
|-
! Command !! Effect
|-
| Move forward one space || The acting Participant moves one space towards the other Participant. If this would move them into the same space as the other Participant, it instead does not, and takes Scratch Damage (0 chassis damage by default).
|-
| Use melee weapon || If the acting Participant is within three spaces of the other Participant, the other Participant takes 1 Chassis damage; otherwise nothing happens.
|-
| Use ranged weapon || If the acting Participant is between five and eight spaces of the other Participant, the other Participant takes 1 Chassis damage; otherwise nothing happens.
|-
| Use special weapon || If the acting Participant has a value of 'blank' for Special Weapon, nothing happens; otherwise a status is set to the other Participant, as follows:
* Flipper: Flipped: A Participant with Flipped has a 25% chance of each of its BotScript lines having no effect.
* Taser: Shocked: A Participant with Shocked has their BotScript replaced with a random BotScript.
* Ram: Dented: A Participant with Dented takes 1 Chassis Damage whenever they received Scratch Damage.
|}* Meddling (Funding): The named Participant gains a random Special Weapon.
* Meddling (House Bots): All Participants in the next Bout have a 10% chance of taking 1 Chassis damage every time one of their BotScript lines is resolved.
I would like to be idled.
don’t really see myself becoming engaged with this dynasty, plus I have no proposal ideas anyway
Enacted 6-0. Josh
Adminned at 11 Sep 2023 15:37:13 UTC
In the rule Form Sheet, add the following to the end of the paragraph which begins “The specific elements that make up a Sport”:
Sport Participants my have Qualities, which are specific to and defined by the respective Sport. When a Quality is Secret, it is privately tracked by the Bookie. When a Quality is Public, it is publicly tracked. Whenever a Participant exists who does not have a value for Quality required by a Sport for which they are a Potential Participant, then the Bookie should (and must, before resolving any Sporting Event in which that Participant is a Participant), at their first opportunity, generate that Quality by any mechanism defined for that Quality, or by generating a random legal value if no other mechanism is defined.
If there is a rule called Estate Agent Wresting, remove the following from the Method of Resolution:
Each Participant has a Finishing Move which is privately tracked by the Bookie for all Sporting Events of Estate Agent Wrestling. If the Bookie has not yet done so for each Participant, the Bookie shall secretly randomly roll 5 Fight Dice for each Participant and designate that set of dice faces as that Participant’s Finishing Move. If there is more that one Miss in a Participant’s Finishing Move, the Bookie shall reroll each Miss after the first until there is no more than one Miss in the Participant’s Finishing Move.
To the same rule, add the following as a fourth bullet point:
* Secret Quality: Finishing Move. A Finishing Move is five potential outcomes for the roll of a Fight Die, with a maximum of one Miss.
If there is a rule called Bloggsball, change the following from its Method of Resolution:
For each Participant, if they have not Participated in a Sporting Event before, the Bookie secretly randomly generates a number between 5 and 15 to be their Level; if they have he takes their previous level and adjusts
to
For each Participant in this Sporting Event, adjust their Level
To the same rule, add the following as a fourth bullet point:
* Secret Quality: Level, which must be a number between 1 and 20. When generating, secretly randomly select a number between 5 and 15.
In the rule Soccer, move the following text:
Each Participant has an Offensive Rating, a Defensive Rating, and a Midfield Rating, shown in the Ratings table below.
to be a fourth bullet point in its own right, and change it to read as follows:
* Public Qualities: Each Participant has an Offensive Rating, a Defensive Rating, and a Midfield Rating.
Move the first table in the same rule to public tracking.
Timed out / quorumed 6 votes to 0. Enacted by Kevan.
Adminned at 11 Sep 2023 10:11:57 UTC
In the rule “Form Sheet”, add a subrule named “Estate Agent Wrestling” and give it the following text:
Potential Participants: I. O. Yoo, I. M. Eyeron, J. M. Proctor, C. J. Hatchet
Required Participants: 2
Potential Outcomes: X Participant winsMethod of Resolution: A Fight Die is a six-sided die with sides of {Punch,Kick,Grapple,Leap,Taunt,Miss}. Each Participant has a Finishing Move which is privately tracked by the Bookie for all Sporting Events of Estate Agent Wrestling. If the Bookie has not yet done so for each Participant, the Bookie shall secretly randomly roll 5 Fight Dice for each Participant and designate that set of dice faces as that Participant’s Finishing Move. If there is more that one Miss in a Participant’s Finishing Move, the Bookie shall reroll each Miss after the first until there is no more than one Miss in the Participant’s Finishing Move. At the start of the Sporting Event, each Participant has a number of Contribution defaulting to 0. For each round, the Bookie shall secretly randomly roll 5 Fight Dice for each Participant and add Contribution based on the results of that Participant’s dice roll results for that round matching one or more combinations below:
* Two or more Punches: 1 Contribution
* Two or more Kicks: 1 Contribution
* Two or more Grapples: 1 Contribution
* Three Leaps and at least one Kick, Punch, or Grapple: 3 Contribution
* Three Leaps and no Kicks, Punches, or Grapples: -3 Contribution (to a minimum of zero)
* A set of die results which corresponds exactly to the sequence of their Finishing Move (without considering the order of those results): 5 Contribution
* At least one Taunt and gained at least 1 Contribution from any other valid combination this round: 1 Contribution
The Bookie shall repeat these rounds until one Participant has at least 10 Contribution. If both Participants have at least 10 Contribution and have the same Contribution at the end of the round, the Bookie continues repeating the rounds until one Partipant has more Contribution than the other. At the end of this process, the Participant with the highest Contribution wins.Meddling (Over): Each round, the selected Participant has a Miss as one of their results, and the Bookie shall secretly randomly roll 4 Fight Dice instead of 5 for the remaining results for that Participant.
Meddling (Hyped): Each round, the Bookie shall re-roll all Miss results beyond the first rolled Miss result for the selected Participant.
On 7 September a game was held in the Giolitti Grand Masters Series, which was inconclusive.
On 7 September a game was held in the Giolitti Grand Masters Series, in which Paparoni beat Carpino.
The resolution rules for Giolitti were not in place for the 07/09 game; they were for the 08/09.
Reached quorum and enacted, 4-0. Josh
Adminned at 08 Sep 2023 17:52:58 UTC
Throughout the ruleset and gamestate, change “Ankh-Morpork United” to “Zahndorf FC”; change “Twoshirts FC” to “West Cresci Albion”; change “Pseudopolis” to “Juarez Town”; change “Upper Feltwhistle” to “Feltwhistle Rovers”.
Add a new subrule to the rule Form Sheet, called Bloggsball:
* Potential Participants: ♠ Aces and Eights ♠, 📶 The Receptionists 📶, 🎤THE HOSTS🎤, 🐈 The Aristocrats 🐈, 🚨New Dynasty Klaxon🚨, 🚀 The Raccoons 🚀
* Required Participants: 2
* Potential Outcomes: X Participant wins
* Method of Resolution: The Bookie randomly generates an odd number of rounds for the match, between 5 and 25. For each Participant, if they have not Participated in a Sporting Event before, the Bookie secretly randomly generates a number between 5 and 15 to be their Level; if they have he takes their previous level and adjusts it by between 1 and 3 inclusive, up or down, secretly randomly, to a minimum of 1 or a maximum of 20. The Levels of Bloggball Participants are privately tracked by the Bookie. For the first round, the Bookie secretly randomly selects one Participant to be the Pitcher; the other is the Blogger. Participants alternate between Pitcher and Blogger from one round to the next. Each Round, the Bookie secretly randomly generates a number between 1 and 20; that number is the Blogger’s Brawn. If the Blogger’s Brawn is higher than the Pitcher’s Level, the Blogger scores a point; otherwise, the Pitcher scores a Point. Whichever Participant has the most Points at the end of the Rounds wins.
* Meddling (PEDs): The named Participant’s Brawn is +1 whenever it is calculated in this match.
* Meddling (Huge Donation): The named Participant has their Level permanently increased by 1.
If there is a rule called ClingBoom, after “they subtract 1 hit point from each Participant who doesn’t have the name of that trap in their name”, add “; if a Participant has 0 or fewer Hit Points then they are dead in this Sporting Event”.
Timed out and enacted, 2-0 with two unresolved DEFs. Josh
Adminned at 08 Sep 2023 17:50:13 UTC
In the rule “Form Sheet”, replace the text “The values of X and Y for each Odds should be chosen by the Bookie by whatever means they deem to be appropriate for the Sporting Event.” with the following text:
The values of X and Y for each Odds must be determined using the rules for the Sport identified in the Sporting Event. If no such rules for determining Odds exist for a Sport, then Odds cannot be used in any Sporting Event in which that Sport occurs.
If there is a subrule named “Soccer” in the rule “Form Sheet”, add the following text to that subrule:
Odds: The Odds for the possible Outcomes are determined by matching the combination of the 2 Participants to the row in the Odds table below and using the Odds for the Outcomes listed for that row:
{| class="wikitable"
|+ Odds
|-
! Participants !! Odds
|-
| Ankh-Morpork United, Twoshirts FC ||
* Ankh-Morpork United wins 1-1
* Twoshirts FC wins 3-1
* Draw 2-1
|-
| Ankh-Morpork United, Pseudopolis ||
* Ankh-Morpork United wins 2-1
* Pseudopolis wins 2-1
* Draw 1-1
|-
| Ankh-Morpork United, Upper Feltwhistle ||
* Ankh-Morpork United wins 1-1
* Upper Feltwhistle wins 5-1
* Draw 3-1
|-
| Pseudopolis, Twoshirts FC ||
* Pseudopolis wins 1-1
* Twoshirts FC wins 2-1
* Draw 1-1
|-
| Upper Feltwhistle, Twoshirts FC ||
* Upper Feltwhistle wins 3-1
* Twoshirts FC wins 1-1
* Draw 2-1
|-
| Pseudopolis, Upper Feltwhistle ||
* Pseudopolis wins 1-1
* Upper Feltwhistle wins 4-1
* Draw 3-1
|}
The Odds for the Soccer match-ups are not strictly mathematically calculated from the real chances, but they are “related”, which I think is good enough. I’m not opposed if folks would rather have more strictly-calculated Odds.
Set to illegal by Kevan per my comment on it: “official posts can never be changed from one category to another, or changed to be a different sort of official post, if they have been posted for more than fifteen minutes”. This post “may no longer have any effect on the ruleset or the gamestate”.
Adminned at 06 Sep 2023 16:14:13 UTC
If “Nomich World Cup” and “The Best Better is Obviously Better than You” was not enacted, this Proposal has no effect.
Punters should note this is an additional table separate to the Winners Circle, not additional columns.
Add a publicly-tracked table named All-Time Highs above Winner Circle with a row for each Active Punter.Beside these rows are the following columns numbering what applies:
* Sporting Events taken part in
* Outcomes that matched Bet
* Total Readies StakedIf “May The Odds Be Ever In Your Favor” or similar ratio-based Proposal was enacted, add the following column:
* Max potential ReadiesMax Potential Readies will numerate the highest possible Readies a Punter has calculated from all successful Bets. Any Meddles or other future actions that cost Readies (except for Bets) will not be subtracted from this column. The Bookie should update each field after each Outcome.
Refraining from subtracting Meddles or other costs from Max Potential Readies is to maintain some level of secrecy, just a rough idea as to who is in the lead.
Timed out 3 votes to 0. Enacted by Kevan.
Adminned at 08 Sep 2023 14:27:45 UTC
Add a subrule to the rule “Form Sheet”, called “Soccer”, and give it the following text:
Potential Participants: Ankh-Morpork United, Twoshirts FC, Pseudopolis, Upper Feltwhistle
Required Participants: 2
Potential Outcomes: X Participant wins; Draw
Meddling (Red Cards): Subtract 1 from each of the Offensive, Defensive, and Midfield Ratings of the Meddled Participant for this Sporting Event only, to a minimum of 1 for each Rating.
Meddling (Own Goals): Whenever the Attacker is the Meddled Participant in the second step of the Method of Resolution, if the Attacker’s Score is not increased by 1, then increase the Defender’s Score by 1.Method of Resolution:
Each Participant has an Offensive Rating, a Defensive Rating, and a Midfield Rating, shown in the Ratings table below. The Bookie shall designate one Participant as the First and the other as the Second, setting each to have a Score of 0. The Bookie shall use the Ratings of the 2 Participants for the Sporting Event while performing the following steps 6 times:
# Determine which Participant has Possession by secretly randomly choosing a number between 1 and M, where M is the sum of the Midfield Ratings for both Participants. If the result is less than or equal to the Midfield Rating of the First, then the First is the Attacker and the Second is the Defender. Otherwise, the Second is the Attacker and the First is the Defender.
# Determine if the Attacker scores by secretly randomly choosing a number between 1 and S, where S is the sum of the Defensive Rating of the Defender and the Offensive Rating of the Attacker. If the result greater than the Defensive Rating of the Defender, then add 1 to the Score of the Attacker.After the steps above have been performed 6 times, the Outcome is based on the final values of the Scores. The Participant with the higher Score wins, or if the Scores are the same, it is a Draw.
{| class="wikitable"
|+ Ratings
|-
! Participant !! Offensive !! Defensive !! Midfield
|-
| Ankh-Morpork United || 7 || 6 || 8
|-
| Twoshirts FC || 2 || 7 || 4
|-
| Pseudopolis || 5 || 9 || 6
|-
| Upper Feltwhistle || 3 || 3 || 2
|}
I figured that if Josh was willing to run a simulation of all the games proposed so far, he would be willing to run a simulation for Soccer. I know so far that the games have referenced actual BlogNomic dynasties in the past and the player or team names from those dynasties.I couldn’t find the references for Soccer, so I pick the team names from another reference that some people may know.
If Josh or someone else would rather have past dynasty teams instead, let me know what those should be for Soccer.
Reached quorum 4 votes to 0. Enacted by Kevan.
Adminned at 08 Sep 2023 11:04:55 UTC
Add a subrule to “The Form Sheet” called “Giolitti”:-
* Potential participants: Carpino, Di Fieri, Micheli, Paparoni, Scaletti
* Required Participants: 2
* Potential Outcomes: X Participant wins; Draw
* Method of Resolution: The Bookie shall assign secretly random numbers from 1 to 13 to each Participant’s Pocket, and select a secretly random Grand Canal from Angel, World, Sun, Moon, Star, Lightning, Devil, Death, Impostor and Magician. If one Participant has a higher number than the other in their Pocket (or if the Grand Canal is Devil, a lower number) and the Grand Canal is not Death, they win. Otherwise the game is a draw.
* Meddling (Centofanti): Instead of being chosen at random, the Grand Canal is Devil.
* Meddling (Pantalone): The Meddled Participant’s Pocket is increased by 2.
Timed out / quorumed 4 votes to 0. Enacted by Kevan.
Adminned at 08 Sep 2023 11:05:33 UTC
In the rule The Form Sheet, change “a total number of potential Participants” to “a list of potential Participants”.
Add a subrule to that rule, called Clingboom, with the following text:
* Potential Participants: Acid Yoda, Laser Mideg, Buzzsaw Darth Cliche, Cheesecutter Purplebeard
* Required Participants: 4
* Potential Outcomes: X Participant wins, All Participants die
* Method of Resolution: Each Participant has 4 hit points. The Bookie secretly randomly selects an ordered list of 20 traps from the list Acid, Laser, Buzzsaw, Cheesecutter, StickyBomb. They then work down that list from top to bottom; for each entry they subtract 1 hit point from each Participant who doesn’t have the name of that trap in their name. If at any point there is only one living Participant, and the next item on the list is not StickyBomb, then that Participant has won.
* Meddling (Arena tampering): The chosen Participant’s name contains the name of the chosen trap; after the list of traps is made, a random trap that is not the chosen trap is changed to the chosen trap.
* Meddling (Laxative): The selected Participant has 1 fewer Hit Points.
Reached quorum 4 votes to 0. Enacted by Kevan.
Adminned at 07 Sep 2023 08:26:51 UTC
In “Official Posts”, replace:-
Secondly, if a post by a New Punter is not in any category but follows the wording of a Proposal, in that it has written changes the gamestate and or Ruleset, and if it has been posted for less than six hours, then any Admin may change it to be in the Proposal category. A New Punter is defined as a Punter who has been a Punter for fewer than seven days or a Punter that has unidled in the past seven days after being idle for at least 3 months.
with:-
Secondly, if a post is less than six hours old and appears to the Bookie to have been intended as a Proposal, and if its author does not already have two Proposals pending, then the Bookie may move it into the Proposal category, causing it to be considered to have been open for voting since the time that the post was first posted.
To “Malign Emperors”, add to the first paragraph:-
The Bookie may not use the rule “Official Posts” to move posts into the proposal category.
This rule has been around for years without, I think, ever actually being successfully deployed. Rafter’s proposal attempt below is within the six-hour window, but having been here a few weeks they are no longer considered to be a “New Punter” - and even regular, veteran players occasionally make this mistake by misclicking the interface. Maybe we should make the whole thing less strict, and limit its usage to the (non-Malign) Bookie so that it can’t be applied tactically.
Not sure what the hours should be - six isn’t always enough if the Emperor is asleep, but twelve seems like too much if a post that not everyone thought of as being intended as a proposal can suddenly become enactable as one. I’ll leave it at the status quo for now.
I request to be unidled. (And before I get comments on a self unidle, my laptop is being a slug =P )
Reached quorum 4 votes to 0. Enacted by Kevan.
Adminned at 06 Sep 2023 08:41:50 UTC
Add the following text to the rule “Form Sheet”:
The Bookie may optionally choose a Sporting Event to have Odds, which is expressed in the form “X-to-Y”, where X and Y are integers greater than 0, and which should be listed next to each Potential Outcome. If Odds are used in a Sporting Event, they must be applied to all Potential Outcomes. The values of X and Y for each Odds should be chosen by the Bookie by whatever means they deem to be appropriate for the Sporting Event.
In the subrule “Betting”, after the text “For each Bet’s whose Outcome occured, increase the Readies of the betting Punter by the amount of the Stake.” add this text:
If there were Odds associated with the Outcome that occured, instead increase the Readies of the betting Punter by the amount of the Stake multiplied by X and divided by Y, where X and Y are the values from those Odds.
Introducing the idea of Odds to make it more interesting when choosing to Bet on one Potential Participant over another. I didn’t want to get into how to determine the Odds just yet, but we will probably want the Odds to be related to the actual chances of a particular Outcome if those chances are varied per Potential Participant. It requires the concept that some Potential Participants are “better” at a Sport than others and would have better win chances.
Reached quorum 4 votes to 0. Enacted by Kevan.
Adminned at 06 Sep 2023 08:37:44 UTC
If “Nomich World Cup” was not enacted, this Proposal has no effect.
If there is a rule named “The Gamblers”, add a subrule to it named “Winners Circle” and give it the following text:
There is a publicly-tracked table named Winners Circle which contains the following columns, each defaulting to empty:
* Sport - The name of a Sport from a Sporting Event
* Date - A day and month
* Winners - A list of PuntersAfter making a Results Post, the Bookie should add an entry to the Winners Circle for each Sporting Event from that Results Post with the following information:
* The Sport named in that Sporting Event
* The date that Sporting Event took place
* The name of each Punter whose Bet matched the Outcome of that Sporting Event
I like the secretly-tracked information, but if we don’t have any clue where each of us stand compared to the others, it’s going to get dull after a while. I think it would be more interesting to see who is having success at their Bets so we have something to work with when deciding how much to Bet for upcoming Sporting Events. The fact that we won’t know how much the “winners” actually won will preserve the core reasoning behind keeping Readies secret.
Reached quorum 5 votes to 0. Enacted by Kevan.
Adminned at 06 Sep 2023 08:36:03 UTC
Enact a new rule “Meddling”:-
Each Sport may have Meddlings. These are listed in the Sport’s Form Sheet as “Meddling (X)”, where X is the name of each Meddling.
A Punter who has at least 10 Readies may plan a Sport’s Meddling, applying it to a specific Participant in a single, specific Event of that Sport (identified by the Sport and the date on which it will occur) that has not yet occurred, by privately informing the Bookie of this.
In “Form Sheet”, to the end of the paragraph beginning “The Bookie may generate the resolution”, add:-
When generating the resolution of a Sporting Event, the Bookie applies all Meddlings that were planned against Participants in that Event. (If the same Meddling would be applied multiple times to the same Participant in an Event, it is instead only applied once.) For each Meddling that is planned for an Event, the Punter who performed it loses 10 Readies at the start of that Event.
To the “Nomich” rule, add:-
Meddling (Transmute): Whenever the Meddled Participant is dealt an Ace, it becomes a King of the same suit instead.
Meddling (Drop): The Meddled Participant is dealt one additional card, then their highest rank card (ties resolved at secretly random) is discarded.
A mechanic for interfering with matches in a way that isn’t always obviously visible in the results.
Reached quorum 5 votes to 0. Enacted by Kevan.
Adminned at 06 Sep 2023 08:11:19 UTC
Replace “Each Punter has an amount of Readies, which is privately tracked by the Bookie and which defaults to 100.”, with:-
Each Punter has an amount of Readies, which is privately tracked by the Bookie; this amount may be negative, and defaults to 100.
A player betting carelessly and ending up in the red should probably be recorded as such, rather than written off.
Reached quorum 4 votes to 0. Enacted by Kevan.
Adminned at 06 Sep 2023 08:08:40 UTC
Add a new dynastic rule as a subrule to the rule The Gamblers, called Betting:
At any time, a Punter may place a Bet. Bets placed are publicly tracked and must have the following elements: a single, specific Sporting Event (identified by the Sport and the date on which it will occur) that has not yet occurred, an outcome (defined in the rule for the Sport of that Sporting Event), and a Stake (which must be a positive quantity of Readies that is not greater than the amount of Readies that Punter has, minus the Stakes of any other open Bets that Punter has).
After a Sporting Event has occurred, the Bookie should Cash all Bets for that Sporting Event, as an atomic action with the following steps:
* Remove all such Bets from public tracking
* For each Bet’s whose Outcome occured, increase the Readies of the betting Punter by the amount of the Stake.
* For each Bet whose Outcome did not occur, decrease the Readies of the betting Punter by the amount of the Stake.
Add a subrule to the rule Form Sheet, called Nomich:
Potential participants: Gothmog Hall, Ichneumon Hall, Penanggalan Hall, Bandersnatch Hall
Required Participants: 2
Potential Outcomes: X Participant wins; Draw
Method of Resolution: The Bookie shall secretly randomly deal each Participating Participant 7 cards from a standard 52 card deck. The Participant that scores the highest along the metric found here wins.
Reached quorum 4 votes to 0. Enacted by Kevan.
Adminned at 05 Sep 2023 07:51:18 UTC
Add a new dynastic rule to the ruleset, called the Form Sheet:
A Sporting Event requires an identified Sport, and any additional details required by the subrule that carries that Sport’s name, if such a rule exists. There is a publicly tracked list of upcoming Sporting Events, called the Form Sheet. It lists the upcoming Sporting Events for at least the next seven days; if at any point it does not show at least one Sporting Event per day for the next seven days then the Bookie may randomly select a sporting event for each upcoming day and add it to the list, until at least one Sporting Event is displayed for the next ten days.
The Sports that can occur as part of a Sporting Event are as follows:
* Nomich
* Clingboom
* Soccer
* Bloggsball
* Giolitti
* Estate Agent Wrestling
* BlogbotsThe specific elements that make up a Sport are detailed in subrules to this rule. As a minimum, a Sport should have a total number of potential Participants, a number of Required Participants for a Sporting Event, a list of Potential Outcomes, and a method of resolution.
The Bookie may generate the resolution, if defined, to any Sporting Event in advance of the time at which it takes place. A day’s sporting events all take place on that day at exactly noon UTC; as soon as possible thereafter the Bookie should make a Results Post, a post in the Story Posts category detailing all sporting events that have taken place that have not appears in a previous Results Post, and any results that may be associated with those events.
Add a new dynastic rule to the ruleset, called The Gamblers:
Each Punter has an amount of Readies, which is privately tracked by the Bookie and which defaults to 100. A Punter may request their number of Readies from the Bookie at any time; the Bookie should respond as soon as they are able when such a request is received.
Throughout the ruleset change District to Punter and City to Bookie. Change the Dynastic Tracking page to Betting Shop.
Sports betting / match fixing dynasty. I’ll be aiming for an imperial style of Provocateur / Laissez-Faire / Powerhouse / Scam-Mundane / Guarded / Instinctual
A post-dynastic discussion thread.
Five of six votes FOR after 12 hours, including that of the City. Enacted by Kevan.
Adminned at 04 Sep 2023 08:00:30 UTC
With three Anointments, I have achieved Victory.
Enacted at quorum, 4-0. Josh
Adminned at 03 Sep 2023 19:19:57 UTC
Increase the Anointments of the District called Josh by three.
Under the current rules, it is extremely unlikely that I won’t end up winning. I can demonstrate that mathematically but I don’t want to tip my hand too much in case this fails; suffice it to say that I can outright outbid on enough agenda items, some of them two times over, that the scenario in which I don’t win is extremely marginal (it requires Contentment having come up three times, and a collective agreement to funnel the wins to a single player so they can buy them at minimal cost without me catching wind and blocking any of them, before Stability comes up once).
But at a minimum working it through will take 6 days or so, and more likely it’ll be a week or two of plenary sessions before it all comes together. So we have three options:
1. Trudge through it
2. You lot change the rules to block me in some way
3. Let’s just call it now
I obviously prefer option 3, but I really don’t like option 1, so this is a call to the other Districts to decide between the other options.
Withdrawn. Josh
Adminned at 04 Sep 2023 12:51:40 UTC
Add a subrule to the rule The Conclave, called Open Gates:
When evaluating each District’s Score for a Plenary Session, for each District whose Defence is a negative value, the City must set the Defence of that District to zero and calculate their score as if that negative quantity of Defence had been bid, and then (once the Posting a Plenary Session atomic action is complete) must repeal this rule.
A bit of a last-minute bait and switch but I hope (given that it’s a gamble as to whether this impacts a Session in which Defence is meaningful or not) it will be taken as essentially fair rather than actively hostile. And if not then at least it’s something to vote on to keep idle counters at bay.
The first of the plenary sessions focuses on food security and distribution. Districts will be rated with 0.2 Score per People, 1 Score per Food and 1 Score per Defence.
Reached quorum 4 votes to 0. Enacted by Kevan.
Adminned at 02 Sep 2023 14:37:14 UTC
In “Reactions”, replace “A Dilemma is Ongoing if it is less than 48 hours old.” with:-
A Dilemma is Ongoing if it is less than 48 hours old and some Districts are yet to React to it.
We won’t get our first Plenary Session until “Dilemma #30 is no longer Ongoing”, which is going to require a full 48 hour wait even if everyone reacts quickly to it.
As the districts begin to gather in the final harvest of the year, security advisors warn that groups of citizens still opposed to the conclave process are planning to stage protests and interventions during the imminent plenary sessions. It is as yet unclear how disruptive, if at all, their action will be.
Do the Districts round up the protestors, or continue with the harvest?
Arrest: Govern and Lose 5 People
Continue: Gain 1 Food and Randomly select a number from 0 to 2, inclusive; then randomly select and apply that number of Downsides (excluding this one) to yourself