Sunday, September 30, 2007

A spark of hope over the city.

Sparks has been created.

The Wiki page is made and currently only needs Kevan’s image and the blank threat ratings filled out.

Is everything okay?

I just happened on by, and noticed that the last post is four days ago. Is everything okay?

I’m planning on doing whatever it takes to upgrade MediaWiki this week. Wednesday morning if I can do it.

Unless something more major is taking place, in which case I’ll probably work on that instead.

Wednesday, September 26, 2007

Hmm

I haven’t got a chance to really look over this, but it’s a comic called Twisted Kaiju Theater.

http://neomonsterisland.com/

Proposal: For Good, or for Awesome?

time-out, passed 4-0-1, enacted by aaronwinborn

Adminned at 30 Sep 2007 09:23:39 UTC

In the Kaiju Attributes rule, change the line:

The purpose of these powers is when a Kaiju God takes over direct control of a Monster, the Monster gains these powers.

to:

As a daily action, a Kaiju God may activate one of its powers.

Add the following to the Powers section of the rule Kaiju Attributes:

Teleport Monster – Move a monster to any Neighborhood it is not already in, even if it does not have a location unless it has never had a location (has not yet entered play before.)

Empower Monster – Choose one section of the monster. So long as the name for the attribute in that section is not five or more words, add one word to the attribute for that section and gather the threat rating for the word the same as when initially creating a monster. Add the threat rating from te new word to the current threat rating for that section as well as the current threat rating. As with when initial naming an attribute, the word should be derived from something in the image for that section.

Weaken Monster – Choose one section of a monster. So long as the name for the attribute in that section is not less than two words, remove one word from the attribute for that section and subtract from that section’s threat rating as well as the current threat rating the value that word added.


Reword:

[Monster] Attacks [Monster]: If the two named Monsters are in the same Neighborhood, the one with the lowest Threat Rating is removed from the Neighborhood (and has no location).

To:

[Monster] Attacks [Monster]: If the two named Monsters are in the same Neighborhood, choose one of the three sections of each monster at random using 1DICE3 in the GNDT. The monster whose chosen section has the lowest threat rating now is removed from the Neighborhood (and has no location).

I removed Scramble, and made the Weaken and Empower different so they adjust the threat rating for the attribute and the current threat rating.

Tuesday, September 25, 2007

Media Cover Ups?

After posting to the Media Circus today with a post with two monster names, I realized that it may not be a legal post. I re-read the rule and then became somewhat confused. The portion in question reads:

If this headline contains one (and only one) of the bolded headline fragments given in Rule 2.3.1 (where “[Monster]” is the name of a completed Monster with a wiki page, and “[Neighborhood]” is the name of a Neighborhood), then the Kaiju God writing the headline must also update the gamestate as specified.

Does this mean that if I say Teuthos is in Bean Town that the headline has two (and not only one) matched headline bolded headline fragment, and the gamestate is not updated? 

Also, what happens if two monsters are named? I only updated one monster, since I believed that was the spirit of the rule, but it would stand to reason that one could mention three monsters in a neighborhood and have x3 the effects (since more people might panic if there are three monsters than just one mentioned in the news).

 

Monday, September 24, 2007

Proposal: Use your Powers for Awesome.

s/k, failed by aaronwinborn

Adminned at 30 Sep 2007 09:20:09 UTC

In the Kaiju Attributes rule, change the line:

The purpose of these powers is when a Kaiju God takes over direct control of a Monster, the Monster gains these powers.

to:

As a daily action, a Kaiju God may activate one of its powers.

Add the following to the Powers section of the rule Kaiju Attributes:

Teleport Monster – Move a monster to any Neighborhood it is not already in, even if it does not have a location unless it has never had a location (has not yet entered play before.)

Empower Monster – Choose one section of the monster. Double the threat rating for that section.

Weaken Monster – Choose one section of a monster. Halve the threat rating for that section.

Scramble Monster Powers – Choose one section of a monster. Change its attribute for that section according to the same rules you would use to set its initial attribute.

If the proposal This Town Ain’t Big Enough does not pass, the following does nothing.

Reword:

[Monster] Attacks [Monster]: If the two named Monsters are in the same Neighborhood, the one with the lowest Threat Rating is removed from the Neighborhood (and has no location).

To:

[Monster] Attacks [Monster]: If the two named Monsters are in the same Neighborhood, choose one of the three sections of each monster at random using 1DICE3 in the GNDT. The monster whose chosen section has the lowest threat rating now is removed from the Neighborhood (and has no location).

 

Proposal: Rampage

reached quorum 6-0, enacted by aaronwinborn

Adminned at 30 Sep 2007 09:19:06 UTC

the obvious victory condition here (we might end up with a nother, but the obvious one) is a monster managing to destroy Tokyo.  In the current situation, even if everybody posted othing but building-destruction every day it’d take weeks for Tokyo to be gone.  So here’s a suggestion for a little more destruction.

Add a new line to rule 2.3.1, “Headlines:”

[Monster] goes on a rampage! If the named monster is currently in a Neighborhood with a Population greater than 0 and no Robots or other Monsters present, take the monster"s current Threat Rating and divide by 10,000,000.  Subtract the result from the neighborhood’s current number of buildings.

Sunday, September 23, 2007

He’s back

Unidle me, please.

Friday, September 21, 2007

Construction Status

Robot Sparks has two sections complete and needs a volunteer to draw the third.

Robot Tom Servo has no sections complete (waiting on Snowball In Hell to draw the first), and needs a volunteer for the third section.

Monster Maestroth (Third) has two sections complete and needs a volunteer for the third.

Wednesday, September 19, 2007

Proposal: High Score.

time-out, failed 2-4, failed by aaronwinborn

Adminned at 26 Sep 2007 10:11:58 UTC

Enact a new rule named Terror Tally. It shall contain the following text:

Any time a monster destroys a number of buildings, that number shall be added to the sum for that monster’s Buildings Bashed value which shall be listed in each monster’s section in the Monster Roster. A new monster’s Building’s Bashed value starts at 0.

Make the Buildings Bashed Value for each monster already in play equal to the number of buildings they have already destroyed.

Yarr! It be Talk Like a Pirate Day!

Proposal: This Town Ain’t Big Enough

time-out, passed 5-1, enacted by aaronwinborn

Adminned at 26 Sep 2007 10:10:30 UTC

[ The start of a simple combat system. ]

To the bracketed list in Rule 2.3, add “[Robot] is the name of a completed Robot with a wiki page”

Add two new Headlines to Rule 2.3.1:-

[Monster] Attacks [Monster]: If the two named Monsters are in the same Neighborhood, the one with the lowest Threat Rating is removed from the Neighborhood (and has no location).

[Robot] Repels [Monster]: If the Monster and Robot are in the same Neighborhood, and if the Monster has a higher Threat Rating than all other Monsters who are in a Neighborhood, then the Monster is removed from the Neighborhood (and has no location).

Proposal: Queue Here

reached quorum & time out—6-0. enacted by aaronwinborn

Adminned at 26 Sep 2007 10:06:08 UTC

[ Requiring monsters to enter via the Outer Regions rather than just appearing downtown. ]

Reword the “[Monster] in [Neighborhood]” headline in Rule 2.3.1 to:-

If the Monster is already in a Neighborhood, it is moved to the named Neighborhood, its overall Threat Level is raised by 100,000 times the Neighborhood’s population, and 1% of the Neighborhood’s population (rounding up) immediately Flee.

Add a new Headline:-

[Monster] Approaches: If the Monster has no Location, it is moved to an Outer Region.

Monday, September 17, 2007

Tinker tinker.

Ideas:

reword current rumble rules to only allow a 1/3rd creator of a monster to pick a fight.

Each 1/3rd creator controls how the energy points are spent.

Losing moves the monster to an Outer Region and lowers their threat rating, raising the rating on the winning
monster. Monsters energy only regenerates in the Outer Regions. Regeneration powers for monsters should require

eating building or population, etc. Can be ‘used’ via the media circus.

Robot Energy regenerates at the base. If a robot defeats a monster, the threat rating of the monster is decreased more than if it lost to another monster.

—-

Mock proposal

Reword the text in Monster Rampage

To pick a fight, a Kaiju God announces by posted that e is taking over direct control of a Monster
that is in the same non-outer regions neighborhood as another monster. The monster then gains the abilities on
the Kaiju God who has taken direct control over the Monster. To begin the fight, a different Kaiju God replies
to the post that they will be taking over direct control one other monster. This must continue until all
monsters in a neighborhood are directly controlled by Kaiju Gods.

to say

To pick a fight, a Kaiju God announces by posted that e is picking a fight a Monster that is in the


same non-outer regions neighborhood as one or more other monsters. The Kaiju god must have been one of the
three creators of the monster.  Once done, the fight has been picked. To fight, each Kaiju God controls the
section of the monster they created that is present where the fight has been picked. As a daily action, the
Kaiju God may make a Monster Move, which is done by secretly allocating energy points to up to the energy
points value of their section of the monster as well as activating Kaiju Attributes, if they have no currently
pending Monster Moves in queue for the monster part they are making a move for. (I.e. you can make a move if
you can pending moves for a separate monster part.) Once all sections of all monsters involved have made a
monster move, all the moves are resolved and energy levels up each monster section are updated.

If a monster part has no more energy points, the controlling Kaiju God may not make a Monster Move.

If the creator of a monster part is idle, then the idle Kaiju’s responsibility shall be turned over to the
patron who is listed in the City document that is adjacent and alphabetically to the idle Kaiju’s listing of
Patron.

Fellow Kaiju:I’m certian the wording can be simplified. Please give me all the suggestions you can think of. I know some things that would need to be addressed are not in here, just as what happens when a monster is defeated, using powers, and how they work. Feel free to use these ideas and make a proposal yourself.

Robot: Tom Servo

An electric jolt brings a new creation into being.

Saturday, September 15, 2007

Robot: Sparks

Rising high in the Tokyo Skyline, Sparks is ready to defend the City from anything.

Proposal: Tune Ups

timed out, passed 5-0, enacted by aaronwinborn

Adminned at 17 Sep 2007 15:09:37 UTC

In the rule The Tokyo Menace Defense Force, change the text:

Giant Robots are created in the same way as Monsters, except that the subject line for their creation should start with “Robot:”.

to

Giant Robots are created in the same way as Monsters, except that the subject line for their creation should start with “Robot:”, and when completed shall be tracked in a special section of the Monster Roster titled the Robot Roll Call.

Saturday, September 15, 2007

Framework for monster fights.

Here are some general ideas for monster fighting. I based it off of Rumble.

Monsters have 50 energy.

Kaiju have powers.

Monsters are defeated in energy is 0.

Defeated monsters return to an outer region and regain health.

Kaiju allocate the energy each turn secretly, some towards attacking other monsters/(robots?), some towards defense.

When all moves have been made and revealed, the results are calculated.

Allocating energy to power: Instead of allocating to Attack or defense you can allocate it to a power.

Burn energy for power: Remove that amount of energy from monster to activate the power.

Powers:

Health Food - The monster reduce the population of the neighborhood by up to 5, and gain health of the same amount.

Raze - Monster may burn 5 energy to push over a building onto an opposing monster causing 10 damage. Reduce buildings by 1.

Power shield - Power Shield blocks 5 damage every turn the monster spends at least 10 energy defending.

Some issues: How to log secretly the choices a Kaiju makes? How long will a battle take?  Is this even the direction we want to go? I will certainly post a more detailed mock-proposal first after I get some feedback.

Monster energy can be tracked in the Wiki, and powers as well, so no need for the GNDT to need updated. We can keep it all on the wiki. We may also want to limit monster than can be in the city at one time, or at minimum, monsters in a neighborhood.

News Flash

banana, Brendan, and Zephyr go idle, dropping Quorum to 6.

Robots can now be constructed, and the days of self-killed Proposals not counting toward the limit are over.

Discussion: Monster Mechanics

How would you prefer to do monster fights? Should monsters have a health attribute that be lowered, and at 0 the monster dies? What about Kaiju have health that gets lowered when monsters under their control are hurt? Would you prefer random effects of powers, or more a Rock Paper Scissors type of system, with moves declared in secret then revealed and effects processed?
I’m trying to come up with a system, and some ideas would help jumpstart the process.

Proposal: Biggest Threat: Monsters or Loopholes?

passed 8-0, enacted by aaronwinborn

Adminned at 17 Sep 2007 15:07:08 UTC

In the rule Kaiju Attributes, remove the text:

New powers may be added to the rule by any Kaiju God who makes a proposal that includes the prefix “Power:” and the name of the power.

Remove the power “I can’t resist” and the text contained in its description.

This will remove all redundant text involving proposing new Powers that may be exploited.

Proposal: Point taken

Self-killed
Failed by Hix

Adminned at 14 Sep 2007 14:01:07 UTC

In the rule Kaiju Attributes, change the text:

New powers may be added to the rule by any Kaiju God who makes a proposal that includes the prefix “Power:” and the name of the power.

to

New powers shall be proposed in the following format: The proposal shall include the prefix “Power:” and the name of the power.

Remove the power “I can’t resist” and the text contained in its description.

I got the point.

 

Thursday, September 13, 2007

Proposal: Power:  I can’t resist.

Self-killed
Failed by Hix

Adminned at 14 Sep 2007 14:00:24 UTC

Power:  Give each Kaiju God 42 bananas.

Baeltor in the Middle

Baeltor is on the Wiki, needs the midsection posted.

Monster: Maestroth (Third)

The piping stops, the man collapses from fright, the effigy falling to the ground.
But, a large bird swoops down and grasps the small effigy in it’s talons. As it swoops towards the skies, the piping begins again…

Wednesday, September 12, 2007

Proposal: Build a Better Giant Robot

Timed out (7-0)
Enacted by Hix

Adminned at 14 Sep 2007 13:57:39 UTC

[ Reworking the proposed Giant Robots to be a subtype of Monsters, so that we can just reuse the relevant mechanics. ]

If Big robot fingers have a hard time typing failed, this proposal has no effect.

Reword the “The Tokyo Menace Defense Force” rule, to:-

The Tokyo Menace Defence Base is manned by The Tokyo Menace Defense Force, a series of Giant Robots constructed to defend the city.

Giant Robots are considered to be Monsters with no Attributes, and a Threat Rating of zero. They may be the subject of headlines, but if their Threat Rating would be changed, it instead remains zero, and they do not cause people to Flee.

Giant Robots are created in the same way as Monsters, except that the subject line for their creation should start with “Robot:”.

Proposal: Face the Music

Timed out (5-3)
Enacted by Hix

Adminned at 14 Sep 2007 13:55:39 UTC

[ Removing the clause that lets you submit more proposals if you’ve self-killed some. I don’t like the fact that carelessly-worded proposals can be immediately self-killed and reproposed, bloating the weblog and dividing the commentary, or that a proposal that’s getting shot down should always, always be self-killed to free up your proposal slots. ]

In Rule 1.3 (Proposals), replace “unless the Kaiju God already has 2 Proposals pending that have not been self-killed, or has already made 3 Proposals that day” with:-

unless the Kaiju God already has 2 Proposals pending, or has already made 3 Proposals that day

Monday, September 10, 2007

Proposal: Big robot fingers have a hard time typing

Timed out (5-0)
Enacted by Hix

Adminned at 14 Sep 2007 13:51:03 UTC

Append the following text to the City and Neighborhoods rule:

One Tokyo Menace Defence Base exists - this is a Neighborhood, but has no Patron, Buildings or Population.

Enact a new rule named “The Tokyo Menace Defense Force”. It shall contain the following text:

There will be a document named “Defense Force”. This tracks the information related to the Tokyo Menace Defense Force. The Defense Force’s job is to defend Tokyo against menaces such as giant monsters. The Defense force has giant robots that are used to defeat monsters.

Three Kaiju Gods may combine forces to create a giant robot with which to defend Tokyo. Any Kaiju God who wishes to initiate this process my do so by posting a notice whose title contains the text “Robot:” and the name of the Robot they wish to create. The first two other Kaiju Gods who respond to this post shall work with the initiator to create a Robot. Robots are composed of three Sections, each being a 500x250 pixel image. The Kaiju God who initiated the creation of the robot must first draw the top Section of the robot that they wish to create. The Kaiju God must then cut out and send the bottom 500x20 pixels of their Section to one of the Kaiju Gods who responded to the post. This Kaiju God should create a new 500x250 pixel Section that would fit directly below this 500x20 sliver, before passing the bottom 500x20 pixels of their newly-drawn Section to the final Kaiju God, who must then draw the bottom Section of the Robot.

The completed Robot should then be compiled and should have a page created for it in the Blognomic Wiki; this page should contain the completed picture and the names of its creators. Robots thus created are listed on a special Defense Force page in the wiki.

Now, do we want to give them powers the same as monsters, or something different?

Proposal: On a rampage!

Timed out (3-1-3)
Enacted by Hix.

Adminned at 13 Sep 2007 14:05:12 UTC

Enact a new rule called Kaiju Attributes. It shall contain the following text:

Each Kaiju God shall have 3 attributes that are listed in the Powers section of this rule. New powers may be added to the rule by any Kaiju God who makes a proposal that includes the prefix “Power:” and the name of the power. If a Kaiju God does not have three attributes, they may, once per day, choose a number of powers so they they have no more than three powers. Once per day, if a Kaiju God has three poweres and is not disallowed by any reason stated in the Rules, they may replace one power they have with one power they do not have. The powers a Kaiju God has will be tracked in the Neighborhood in which they are a Patron. The purpose of these powers is when a Kaiju God takes over direct control of a Monster, the Monster gains these powers.

Create a sub rule in the rule Kaiju Attributes named Powers.


Enact a new rule called Monster Rampage. It shall contain the following text:

If two or more monsters are in the same non-outer region neighborhood, they may fight. To pick a fight, a Kaiju God announces by posted that e is taking over direct control of a Monster that is in the same non-outer regions neighborhood as another monster. The monster then gains the abilities on the Kaiju God who has taken direct control over the Monster. To begin the fight, a different Kaiju God replies to the post that they will be taking over direct control one other monster. This must continue until all monsters in a neighborhood are directly controlled by Kaiju Gods. If a fight has been picked, no actions may be taken to move a monster out of the neighborhood where the fight has been picked. If a fight has started, no actions may be taken to move a monster in or out of the neighborhood where the fight has started until the fight has been resolved. A fight may not be picked unless there are rules in place that would allow for the fight to also be resolved.

Proposal: Giant Robots!

Self-killed. Failed by Kevan.

Adminned at 12 Sep 2007 02:46:53 UTC

Append the following text to the City and Neighborhoods rule:

One Tokyo Menace Defence Base exists - this is a Neighborhood, but has no Patron, Buildings or Population.

Enace a new rule named “The Tokyo Menace Defense Force”. It shall contain the following text:

There will be a document named “Defense Force”. This tracks the information related to the Tokyo Menace Defense Force. The Defense Force’s job is to defend Tokyo against menaces such as giant monsters. The Defense force has giant robots that are used to defeat monsters.

Three Kaiju Gods may combine forces to create a giant robot with which to defend Tokyo. Any Kaiju God who wishes to initiate this process my do so by posting a notice whose title contains the text “Robot:” and the name of the Robot they wish to create. The first two other Kaiju Gods who respond to this post shall work with the initiator to create a Robot. Robots are composed of three Sections, each being a 500x250 pixel image. The Kaiju God who initiated the creation of the robot must first draw the top Section of the robot that they wish to create. The Kaiju God must then cut out and send the bottom 500x20 pixels of their Section to one of the Kaiju Gods who responded to the post. This Kaiju God should create a new 500x250 pixel Section that would fit directly below this 500x20 sliver, before passing the bottom 500x20 pixels of their newly-drawn Section to the final Kaiju God, who must then draw the bottom Section of the Robot.

The completed Robot should then be compiled and should have a page created for it in the Blognomic Wiki; this page should contain the completed picture and the names of its creators. Robots thus created are listed on a special Defense Force page in the wiki.

Now, do we want to give them powers the same as monsters, or something different?

New player

I signed up as a new player, but I have no idea what to do.

Monday, September 10, 2007

Proposal: Tokyo Army

Self-killed. Failed by Kevan.

Adminned at 12 Sep 2007 02:47:58 UTC

Append the following text to the Cities and Neighborhood rule:

One Army Base exists - this is a Neighborhood, but has no Patron, Buildings or Population.

Enact a new rule called “The Tokyo Menace Defense Force”. with the text:

There shall be a non-player character listed in the GNDT named TMDF. It shall start with an initial value of 1,500,000,000. This value will be tracked under the Army Base section in The City document.

Start up an army, with later rules to make it actually do something.

Rampaging monsters and rebuilding

Any ideas on how to handle monsters fighting? I’d think something based on their initial threat rating, and a random factor. The result can wound a monster, and of course, destroy buildings. Adding in an army would be fun. Please post your suggestions!

Monster: Maestroth (Second time)

With a feeble hand, the lone believer on top of the cities rooftops raises the effigy into the sky, and chants a blasphemous chorus into the night skies… The piping begins to resonate from the clouds…

Proposal: Breaking News

Reached quorum with 7 votes in favour. Enacted by Kevan.

Adminned at 10 Sep 2007 04:14:51 UTC

[ Working the movement mechanism into the headline system, and tidying it up while I’m there. Bit of a shame to have to make some of the headlines true, but it seems the least confusing way to allow an actual movement mechanic. ]

Rename Rule 2.1.2 (Movement) to “Location”, and delete its second paragraph.

Reword Rule 2.3 (Media Frenzy) to:-

The local news headlines of Tokyo are tracked in a wiki page called The Media Circus. A Kaiju God may, as a Daily Action, add a new headline to this page. If this headline contains one (and only one) of the bolded headline fragments given in Rule 2.3.1 (where “[Monster]” is the name of a completed Monster with a wiki page, and “[Neighborhood]” is the name of a Neighborhood), then the Kaiju God writing the headline must also update the gamestate as specified.

If a headline matches no headline fragments, but contains a single Monster’s name, it may be processed as “[Monster] Spotted”, for that Monster.

If a headline causes a number of people to Flee, they should be removed from their Neighborhood and added to the Neighborhood with the highest population (if tied for highest, the headline writer may choose). If a Neighborhood has a population below 25, any Flee effects on it are ignored.

Add a new rule, “Headlines”, as a subrule of Rule 2.3 (Media Frenzy).

[Monster] Spotted: The Monster has its overall threat level raised by 150,000 points.

[Monster] a Hoax: If the Monster is in the Outer Regions, or is not in a Neighborhood, it has its overall threat level reduced by 500,000 points.

[Monster] In [Neighborhood]: The Monster is moved to the named Neighborhood if it’s not there already. Its overall Threat Level is raised by 100,000 times the Neighborhood’s population, and 1% of the Neighborhood’s population (rounding up) immediately Flee.

[Monster] Attacks [Neighborhood]: If the Monster is in the named Neighborhood, that Neighborhood’s Building value is decreased by one (if any Buildings are left), and 1% of the Neighborhood’s population (rounding up) immediately Flee.

[Monster] Near [Neighborhood]: If the Monster is in a Neighborhood other than the named one, its overall Threat Level is raised by 10,000 times the named Neighborhood’s population, and a single person Flees from the Neighborhood.

Monster: Baeltor

It descends from the skies with a plaintive howl that can move a grown man to tears; it it rumoured to know the word that, if spoken, will destroy the world. Baeltor has arrived in Tokyo!

Proposal: Wading Ashore

Self-killed.

Adminned at 09 Sep 2007 05:52:29 UTC

Add a new subrule to Rule 2.1, before “Movement”, called “Monster Actions”:-

Each Monster may take up to three Monster Actions per day, which can be performed by any Kaiju God who contributed a section to that Monster’s creation. The same Kaiju God may not take more than one Monster Action for the same Monster, per day.

Reword the “Movement” rule to:-

Each completed Monster may occupy a Neighborhood - this is tracked in the City wiki page.

If a Monster is in a Neighborhood, then it may move to a different Neighborhood as a Monster Action.

If a Monster is complete, has three Attributes and does not occupy a Neighborhood, then it may appear in one of the Outer Regions as a Monster Action.

Add a new subrule to Rule 2.1, called “Demolition”:-

As a Monster Action, a Monster may demolish a single building in the Neighborhood it currently occupies. The Kaiju God who performed the Action should update the City wiki page to reflect this.

Sunday, September 09, 2007

Maestroth calls from Elder Space

It is now legal to finish Maestroth

Friday, September 07, 2007

Problem with wiki edit

I have renamed my neighborhood and populated it, but the wiki won’t edit. Could someone other than me change the name to Alethioville, the buildings to 40, the population to 200, and the vacancy to 200?

EE upgrade complete, hopefully sane

ExpressionEngine has been upgraded to version 1.6.0. This should have complete PHP 5 compatibility, and will hopefully have fixed the problems the upgrade to PHP 5 caused.

Someone please, please tell me that’s true.

Proposal: Build it and they will come…

Timed out, and failed 2 votes to 4. Failed by Kevan.

Adminned at 09 Sep 2007 01:56:39 UTC

Enact a new rule, ‘Places of Worship’:

There exist four types of special buildings: Altars, Shrines, Temples, and the Cathedral. A Kaiju God may, once per day, choose to create an Altar, a Shrine, or a Temple in a single Neighborhood, assuming the new placement would be valid. Altars, Shrines, and Temples for a Neighborhood are listed under their relevant categories on the City wiki page, with the name of each Kaiju God who has such a building there. The Cathedral is a special, unique building, which exists only in the Neighborhood named Tokyo, with its own category listing there.

Add a new subrule to ‘Places of Worship’, titled ‘Altars’:

When allowed, an altar may be placed in a Neighborhood, assuming the Kaiju God doesn’t have an altar already in that Neighborhood, the population of that Neighborhood is greater than the number of non-destroyed altars already in that Neighborhood, and there is at least one vacancy. Unless another rule supercedes this, placing an altar will reduce the number of buildings for the Neighborhood by 1. When an altar is built, the Kaiju God will list eir name under the ‘Altars’ category of the Neighborhood. If a Kaiju God’s Altar in a Neighborhood is ever destroyed, then the word ‘destroyed’ will be listed in parentheses after eir name under ‘Altars’, and the Kaiju God may not build another there.

Add a new subrule to ‘Places of Worship’, titled ‘Shrines’:

When allowed, a shrine may be placed in a Neighborhood, assuming the Kaiju God has an altar already present there, the Kaiju God doesn’t have a shrine already in that Neighborhood, the population of that Neighborhood is greater than five times the number of non-destroyed shrines already in that Neighborhood, and there are at least two vacancies. Unless another rule supercedes this, placing a shrine will reduce the number of buildings for the Neighborhood by 2. When a shrine is built, the Kaiju God will list eir name under the ‘Shrines’ category of the Neighborhood. If a Kaiju God’s Shrine in a Neighborhood is ever destroyed, then the word ‘destroyed’ will be listed in parentheses after eir name under ‘Shrines’, and the Kaiju God may not build another there.

Add a new subrule to ‘Places of Worship’, titled ‘Temples’:

When allowed, a temple may be placed in a Neighborhood, assuming the Kaiju God has a shrine already present there, the Kaiju God doesn’t already have a temple there, the population of that Neighborhood is greater than ten times the number of non-destroyed temples already in that Neighborhood, and there are at least 5 vacancies. Unless another rule supercedes this, placing a temple will reduce the number of buildings for the Neighborhood by 5. When a temple is built, the Kaiju God will list eir name under the ‘Temples’ category of the Neighborhood. If a Kaiju God’s Temple in a Neighborhood is ever destroyed, then the word ‘destroyed’ will be listed in parentheses after eir name under Temples, and the Kaiju God may not build another there.

Add a new subrule to ‘Places of Worship’, titled ‘The Cathedral’:

There is a listing for ‘Cathedral:’ in the Neighborhood named Tokyo. Underneath this are listed the names of Tokyo, and of any other Kaiju Gods who are directed by the rules to place their names there.

If the Proposal: “Urban Clearance II” failed, then to each Neighborhood that is not destroyed, and has headers already in place for ‘Buildings’ and ‘Population’ in the City wiki page, add categories for ‘Altars:’, ‘Shrines:’, and ‘Temples:’, and add the name ‘Tokyo’ beneath each of those categories (without reducing the number of buildings); in addition, to the neighborhood named ‘Tokyo’, add a category listing for ‘Cathedral:’, and add the name ‘Tokyo’ beneath that.

If the Proposal: “Urban Clearance II” failed, then in the ‘The City and Neighborhoods’ rule, change

After renaming a Neighborhood entry, they shall add the text “Buildings:” and the text “Population:” to the section they renamed.

to

After renaming a Neighborhood entry, they shall add the text “Buildings:”, the text “Population:”, the text ‘Altars:’, the text ‘Shrines:’, and the text ‘Temples:’ to the section they renamed. Add the name ‘Tokyo’ underneath each of the ‘Altars’, ‘Shrines’, and ‘Temples’ categories for that Neighborhood, without reducing the number of buildings.

If the Proposal: “Urban Clearance II” passed, then in the ‘The City and Neighborhoods’ rule, change

After renaming a Neighborhood entry, they shall add the text “Buildings:” and the text “Population:” to the section they renamed.

to

After renaming a Neighborhood entry, they shall add the text “Buildings:”, the text “Population:”, the text ‘Altars:’, the text ‘Shrines:’, and the text ‘Temples:’ to the section they renamed. Add the name ‘Tokyo’, followed by the name of the Kaiju God (if other than Tokyo) renaming the Neighborhood underneath each of the ‘Altars’, ‘Shrines’, and ‘Temples’ categories for that Neighborhood, without reducing the number of buildings.

If the Proposal: “Urban Clearance II” passed, then to each Neighborhood that is not destroyed, and has headers already in place for ‘Buildings’ and ‘Population’ in the City wiki page, add categories for ‘Altars:’, ‘Shrines:’, and ‘Temples:’, and add the names ‘Tokyo’ and the name of that Neighborhood’s Patron Kaiju God (if other than Tokyo) beneath each of those categories (without reducing the number of buildings); in addition, to the neighborhood named ‘Tokyo’, add a category listing for ‘Cathedral:’, and add the name ‘Tokyo’.

 

Call for Judgment: Active Monster

Failed 1 vote to 3. Failed by Kevan.

Adminned at 12 Sep 2007 02:51:34 UTC

In Rule 2.3 “Media Frenzy”

A Kaiju God may, once per day, post a headline to the top of that page, underneath the section header for the current day (creating a new section if there is not one currently for that day), adding their name in parentheses after the headline. The headline may include up to one of the phrases cited below (which will enact the effects listed for that phrase), replacing the word ‘Monster’ (when it appears) with the name of an active monster in the game that has a wiki page, and replacing the word ‘Neighborhood’ (when it appears) with the name of a Neighborhood listed in The City Document that has listed Building and Population values.

(emphasis added).

Although the rule states that a name of a monster that replaces the word ‘Monster’ must be long to a monster “that has a wiki page,” the term “active monster” is not defined explicitly. Furthermore, because Rule 2.3 involves the raising or lowering of Threat Levels, a Monster named in a headline must have a Threat Level.

Therefore, in order to remedy this, I propose that the following paragraph be added at the end Subrule 2.1.1 “Attributes”

Until all three creators of a Monster have given said Monster an attribute, that Monster shall be Inactive, and flagged as such on its wiki page as well as on the Monster Roster. Any Monster not Inactive is considered Active, but this is not indicated explicitly on its wiki page or the Monster Roster.

 

Proposal: Version 1.17

Failed, 0 votes to 7.

Adminned at 09 Sep 2007 01:55:59 UTC

Add a subrule to the Core Rules after the subrule Proposals titled Patch Proposal. It will contain the text:

If a Kaiju God has a proposal that is Pending and has been voted on, the Kaiju God may make a Patch Proposal, following the same posting rules as a Proposal, with the following exceptions:

The title of the post must be the same as a pending proposal the Kaiju God has posted with the prefix “Patch: “.

The Patch Proposal’s body must start with a link to the pending proposal that matched the title of the Patch Proposal after the prefix, and the rules changes it suggests must only affect the changes the linked proposal would make if passed.

A Kaiju God may post a patch proposal even if the normal limits on proposals have been reached, but may not post more than one Patch Proposal per pending Proposal that is in effect.

This may help speed things along, and make it easier to post fixes when normal proposal limits are reached.

Proposal: Urban Clearance II

Timed out 7 votes to 0. Enacted by Kevan.

Adminned at 09 Sep 2007 01:46:04 UTC

[ Reproposing “Urban Clearance” with fixed numbers. I’m apparently allowed three proposals in the queue, if one has been self-killed (but not yet failed). ]

Reword “The City and Neighborhoods” to:-

The City has a number of Neighborhoods, each having a Name, a number of Buildings, a Population, and a Patron. This data is tracked in the wiki in a page called “The City”.

The Patron of each Neighborhood is a Kaiju God. If a Kaiju God is not the Patron of a Neighborhood, they may add a new Neighborhood to the wiki with a Name of their choice, and themselves as Patron. They shall then roll DICE10 twice in the GNDT - the first die roll shall be multiplied by 10 to give the number of Buildings in the Neighbourhood, and the second die roll shall be multiplied by the number of Buildings to give the Population of the Neighborhood.

If a Neighborhood has zero Buildings and zero Population, it is considered Destroyed, and should be flagged as such in the wiki page.

Add the following to “The City and Neighborhoods”:-

Three Outer Regions exist - these are Neighborhoods, but have no Patron, Buildings or Population. The Outer Regions are The Skies, The Sea and The Farmlands.

In the “Monster Mash” rule, remove the paragraph starting “After a monster is completed…”, if it exists.

Add a new subrule to “Monster Mash”, called “Movement”:-

Each completed Monster may occupy a Neighborhood - this is tracked in the City wiki page. If a Monster is complete, has three Attributes and does not occupy a Neighborhood, then any Kaiju God who contributed to its creation may change its location to one of the Outer Regions.

Any Neighborhoods with Population values shall have their Patron set to the Kaiju God who named them (which can be determined via the wiki page history). Neighborhoods which are still named after Kaiju Gods shall be erased.

Proposal: It came from the ??? !!!

s/k, failed by aaronwinborn

Adminned at 08 Sep 2007 18:40:45 UTC

Add the following text to the City and Neighborhoods rule:

Some outlying regions of the city that are not neighborhoods shall be tracked in a section at the top of The City document called Outer Regions. This is not a neighborhood. It shall have three subsections named with the following:

The Skies

The Sea

The Farmlands

In the subrule Attributes, append the following text:

After a Kaiju God determines the threat level for the part they created, they shall also choose a section listed in the Outer Regions for the monster to enter play at. After each Kaiju involved suggests a Outer Region, the Outer Region that has been suggested the most is where the monster shall start. If there is no majority in the suggestions, the Kaiju who initiated the monster’s creation(drew the top section) shall make the final decision.

Once the Outer Region has been decided, the monsters name shall be listen in The City document in the section named with their starting location.

 

Proposal: Doing the Numbers

time-out, passed 6-0 enacted by aaronwinborn

Adminned at 08 Sep 2007 18:37:35 UTC

Doing the Numbers:

In the ‘Media Frenzy’ rule, change

If none of the following phrases appears, but one or two otherwise active monsters are named in the headline, then if only two active monsters are named, then the overall threat levels of each of those monsters that already has an overall threat level is raised by 75,000 points; or if only one such active monster is named, then its overall threat level (if present) is raised by 100,000 points.

to

If none of the following phrases appears, but one or two otherwise active monsters are named in the headline, then if only two active monsters are named, then the overall threat levels of each of those monsters that already has an overall threat level is raised by 750,000 points; or if only one such active monster is named, then its overall threat level (if present) is raised by 1,000,000 points.

From the ‘Media Frenzy’ rule, change the overall threat level reduction in ‘Monster a Hoax’ from 50,000 points to 500,000 points.

Remove the ‘Monster Spotted Near Neighborhood’ headline and effect from the ‘Media Frenzy’ rule.

Add the following headlines and effects to the ‘Media Frenzy’ rule:

Monster Near Neighborhood: The named monster will have its overall threat level raised by the named Neighborhood’s population times 10,000 points. Additionally, if the named Neighborhood has a population of more than 25, and there is any other Neighborhood with a positive population, then the population of the named Neighborhood will be reduced by 1, and a different Neighborhood with the highest population of the other Neighborhoods (or with the earliest lexicographical name if tied for highest population) will have its population increased by the same amount.

Monster In Neighborhood: If the named monster is not located in the named Neighborhood, then the effects of this headline will be as specified for the ‘Monster Near Neighborhood’ headline instead of for this headline. Otherwise, the named monster will have its overall threat level raised by the named Neighborhood’s population times 100,000 points; additionally, if the named Neighborhood has a population of at least 5, and there is any other Neighborhood with a positive population, then the population of the named Neighborhood will be reduced by the result of its current population divided by 100, rounded up, and a different Neighborhood with the highest population of the other Neighborhoods (or with the earliest lexicographical name if tied for highest population) will have its population increased by the same amount.

If the Proposal “Monsters can’t be a Threat without a Threat Level” passed, then in each of the headlines ‘Monster Seen Flying’, ‘Monster Spotted Offshore’, and ‘Monster Roams Countryside’, change

it will have its overall threat level raised by 1,000,000 points. Otherwise, it will have its overall threat level raised by 100,000 points.

to

it will have its overall threat level raised by 2,500,000 points. Otherwise, it will have its overall threat level raised by 500,000 points.

 

Proposal: Nuclear Beacon

Timed out, 4 votes to 3. Enacted by Kevan.

This means that work can continue on Maestroth, with Amnistar to provide the third section.

Adminned at 08 Sep 2007 04:20:01 UTC

Remove the paragraph beginning “Kaiju Gods may not be involved in the completion of more than two Monsters” from “Monster Mash”.

Proposal: Urban Clearance

s/k, failed by aaronwinborn

Adminned at 06 Sep 2007 12:01:51 UTC

[ Cutting a lot of fluff out of the City rule, and wording the automagically unspecified “monsters must start in an outer region” mechanic in a workable way. ]

Reword “The City and Neighborhoods” to:-

The City has a number of Neighborhoods, each having a Name, a number of Buildings, a Population, and a Patron. This data is tracked in the wiki in a page called “The City”.

The Patron of each Neighborhood is a Kaiju God. If a Kaiju God is not the Patron of a Neighborhood, they may add a new Neighborhood to the wiki with a Name of their choice, and themselves as Patron. They shall then roll DICE10 twice in the GNDT - the first die roll is the number of Buildings in the Neighbourhood, and the second die roll should be multiplied by the first die roll to give the Population of the Neighborhood.

If a Neighborhood has zero Buildings and zero Population, it is considered Destroyed, and should be flagged as such in the wiki page.

If “Monsters may come from Limbo, but they don’t stay there” passed, add the following to “The City and Neighborhoods”:-

Three Outer Regions exist - these are Neighborhoods, but have no Patron, Buildings or Population. The Outer Regions are The Skies, The Sea and The Farmlands.

In the “Monster Mash” rule, remove the paragraph starting “After a monster is completed…”, if it exists.

Add a new subrule to “Monster Mash”, called “Movement”:-

Each completed Monster may occupy a Neighborhood - this is tracked in the City wiki page. If a Monster is complete, has three Attributes and does not occupy a Neighborhood, then any Kaiju God who contributed to its creation may change its location to one of the Outer Regions.

Any Neighborhoods with Population values shall have their Patron set to the Kaiju God who named them (which can be determined via the wiki page history). Neighborhoods still named after Kaiju Gods shall be erased.

Wednesday, September 05, 2007

Proposal: Monsters can’t be a Threat without a Threat Level

self-killed, failed by aaronwinborn

Adminned at 06 Sep 2007 11:59:26 UTC

If the Proposal: “Monsters may come from Limbo, but they don’t stay there.” failed, this Proposal does nothing.

Otherwise:

In the ‘Monster Mash’ rule, change

After a monster is completed, it must start in one of the sections of the city listed in the Outer Regions section of The City Document.

to

After a monster is completed and has initial values for all its attributes, it must start in one of the sections of the city listed in the Outer Regions section of The City Document.

Remove from the Outer Regions any monsters that don’t have initial values for all their attributes at this time.

In the ‘Media Frenzy’ rule, remove the headline and effect for ‘Monster Spotted Offshore’.

Add the following headlines and effects to the ‘Media Frenzy’ rule:

Monster Seen Flying: If the named monster is located in ‘The Skies’, it will have its overall threat level raised by 1,000,000 points. Otherwise, it will have its overall threat level raised by 100,000 points.

Monster Spotted Offshore: If the named monster is located in ‘The Sea’, it will have its overall threat level raised by 1,000,000 points. Otherwise, it will have its overall threat level raised by 100,000 points.

Monster Roams Countryside: If the named monster is located in ‘The Farmlands’, it will have its overall threat level raised by 1,000,000 points. Otherwise, it will have its overall threat level raised by 100,000 points.

Media Circus at TOC Right?

I tried to put the new wiki page for The Media Circus on the top right of blognomic, and thought it was the {{TOCRight}} tag, but that didn’t work. Could someone do that for me, please? And/or tell me how it’s done?

Thanks!

Tuesday, September 04, 2007

Proposal: Monsters may come from Limbo, but they don’t stay there.

Self-killed. Failed by Kevan.

Adminned at 06 Sep 2007 10:08:32 UTC

Add the following text to the City and Neighborhoods rule:

Some outlying regions of the city that are not neighborhoods shall be tracked in a section at the top of The City document called Outer Regions. This is not a neighborhood. It shall have three subsections named with the following:

The Skies

The Sea

The Farmlands


Add the following to the end of the Monster Mash rule:

After a monster is completed, it must start in one of the sections of the city listed in the Outer Regions section of The City Document. The starting location is decided by the Kaiju God who submitted the post to start creating the monster. This is done by simply adding the monsters name into one of the three sections.

When this passes, all monsters created before this rule will be listed in an Outer Region of the monster’s creator’s choice.

Tuesday, September 04, 2007

Everything maintenance tonight

Well, things may be more broken than I thought.

Because of things and things, I have to upgrade blognomic.com to PHP 5.2. This may or may not cause breakage. Everything is backed up, so even if there’s major breakage, we should be able to get back to how we were with minimal fuss.

Everyone who sees this cross your fingers. :P

Well, PHP 5 didn’t break anything that I can find, but I’m tired, so I’m going to bed. Everything should work okayishly until I finish the MediaWiki upgrade tomorrow.

Schrodinger’s Invisible Lolcat

It’s lolling into existence with its CAN HAS CHEEZBURGER

Proposal: Ghost towns

reached quorum 7-0, enacted by aaronwinborn

Adminned at 05 Sep 2007 14:34:00 UTC

In the rule “The City and Neighborhoods” change the text

When a Kaiju God goes idle, no changes will need to be made in The City document to reflect this.

to

When a Kaiju God goes idle, and that Kaiju God does not have an empty neighborhood named after them (i.e. they renamed a neighborhood and populated it.), no changes will need to be made in The City document to reflect this. If they do have an empty neighborhood named after them (i.e. they had one made for them but never named it), remove this neighborhood from The City document.

This will keep it clean from someone never naming their document and allowing for someone who joins later to have their own to name.

When this passes, if any Kaiju God has gone idle from the start of this dynasty till when this passes, and there is an empty neighborhood named after them, remove it from The City document.

Monster: Maestroth

That piping! That horrible piping! It comes from the sky. I dare not look up and catch a glimpse of that unspeakable terror that floats across the sky in such a unfathomable way. Oh that piping! It is a music that etches unholy melodies and unthinkable measures into the mind!

Proposal: A Monster is a Greater Threat near New York than near Nantucket

reached quorum 7-0, enacted by aaronwinborn

Adminned at 05 Sep 2007 14:31:26 UTC

If the Proposal ‘Media Frenzy Redux’ passes, then replace the headline and effect for ‘Monster Spotted Near Neighborhood’ of the passed rule with the following:

Monster Spotted Near Neighborhood: The named monster will have its overall threat level raised by the named Neighborhood’s population times 1,000 points. Additionally, if the named Neighborhood has a population of at least 5, and there is any other Neighborhood with a positive population, then the population of the named Neighborhood will be reduced by the result of its current population divided by 100, rounded up, and a different Neighborhood with the highest population of the other Neighborhoods (or with the earliest lexicographical name if tied for highest population) will have its population increased by the same amount.

 

Proposal: Media Frenzy Redux

reached quorum 9-0, enacted by aaronwinborn

Adminned at 05 Sep 2007 04:46:43 UTC

Enact a new rule, ‘Media Frenzy’:

A wiki page shall be created, titled ‘The Media Circus’. A Kaiju God may, once per day, post a headline to the top of that page, underneath the section header for the current day (creating a new section if there is not one currently for that day), adding their name in parentheses after the headline. The headline may include up to one of the phrases cited below (which will enact the effects listed for that phrase), replacing the word ‘Monster’ (when it appears) with the name of an active monster in the game that has a wiki page, and replacing the word ‘Neighborhood’ (when it appears) with the name of a Neighborhood listed in The City Document that has listed Building and Population values. Any headline’s effect to an attribute, rating, or other value assumes that such a value exists; otherwise that specific part of the effect will be ignored. The Kaiju God posting the headline will make the appropriate changes in other gamestate documents for the effects.

If none of the following phrases appears, but one or two otherwise active monsters are named in the headline, then if only two active monsters are named, then the overall threat levels of each of those monsters that already has an overall threat level is raised by 75,000 points; or if only one such active monster is named, then its overall threat level (if present) is raised by 100,000 points.

Headline Phrases:

Monster Spotted Offshore: The named monster will have its overall threat level raised by 150,000 points.

Monster a Hoax: The named monster will have its overall threat level reduced by 50,000 points.

Monster Spotted Near Neighborhood: The named monster will have its overall threat level raised by 200,000 points. Additionally, if the named Neighborhood has a population of at least 5, and there is any other Neighborhood with a positive population, then the population of the named Neighborhood will be reduced by 1, and a different Neighborhood with the highest population of the other Neighborhoods (or with the earliest lexicographical name if tied for highest population) will have its population increased by 1.

There will always be some holdouts and naysayers, thus the requirement for a 5 population. Also, the Overpopulation rule should take care of cases when a city becomes overfilled, even if it means sending back the refugees.

 

posting monster pictures

In the wiki, at least on my screen, of you post the pictures as follows:

pic1
pic2
pic3

...they aren’t stacked.
If you post then this way:

pic1

pic2

pic3

...they stack with only a minimal white space between them.

Just a note {:0)

Rise Allizdog!

Place the 500x250 pieces here in order.

Proposal: Town-like names, please

Reached quorum, 10-0, enacted by aaronwinborn

Adminned at 05 Sep 2007 04:39:15 UTC

Remove the parentheses and anything enclosed by parentheses from the names of each Neighborhood, with the exception that “(Destroyed)” shall not be removed if it appears.

Because “Bean Town(Chivalrybean)”, “EmoMcEmoBrurrow (Clucky)”, etc. are strange names for Neighborhoods.  Worse, people will probably refer to them as simply “Bean Town” and “EmoMcEmoBrurrow”, which are not currently their names.

Proposal: Media Frenzy

self-killed, failed by aaronwinborn

Adminned at 05 Sep 2007 04:36:31 UTC

Enact a new rule, ‘Media Frenzy’:

A wiki page shall be created, titled ‘The Media Circus’. Once per day, a Kaiju God may post a headline to the top of this page, underneath a section header for the current day (creating a new section if there is not one currently for that day), adding their name in parentheses after the headline. The headline may include up to one of the phrases cited below (which will enact the effects listed for that phrase), replacing the word ‘Monster’ (when it appears) with the name of an active monster in the game that has a wiki page, and replacing the word ‘Neighborhood’ (when it appears) with the name of a named Neighborhood listed in The City Document that has listed Building and Population values. If none of the following phrases appears, but one or two otherwise active monsters are named in the headline, then if only two active monsters are named, who both have threat levels listed in their wiki page, then the threat levels of each monster is raised by 75,000 points; or if only one such active monster is named, then its threat level is raised by 100,000 points.

Monster spotted in Neighborhood The named monster will have its threat level raised by a specific amount, assuming it has a current threat level: if it is currently in that Neighborhood, then its threat level will be raised by 1,000,000 points; if it is not currently in that Neighborhood, but is in another Neighborhood, then its threat level will be raised by 500,000; or if it is not currently in that Neighborhood, then its threat level will be raised by 150,000 points.

Monster leaves Neighborhood The named monster will have its threat level reduced by a specific amount, assuming it has a current threat level: if it was in that Neighborhood earlier that day, but is no longer, then its threat level will be lowered by 500,000 points; if it is still currently in that Neighborhood, then its threat level will be lowered by 100,000; if it has not been in that Neighborhood during that day but was in a previous day that week, then its threat level will be lowered by 200,000; or if it is not currently in that Neighborhood, nor has been during that week, then its threat level will be lowered by 50,000 points.

Other headlines could be added in the future with more media influence, or new effects could be added; for instance, once our Neighborhoods have standing armies, headlines might influence the build-up of those armies. And then there’s always ‘Cornzilla battles the Giant Gerbil’ or ‘Wobbly Weeble decimates the Army’...

Proposal: Time Thaw

Passed 5-3 after 48 hours, Enacted by aaronwinborn.

Adminned at 05 Sep 2007 04:35:33 UTC

[ More deletionism. The core-ruleset “Time Freeze” mechanic was added by five players back in April - it allows a Hiatus to be triggered as part of a CfJ. This doesn’t seem common or useful enough to take up four paragraphs of core ruleset, and the ability to lock the game (and still declare victory during that lock) seems like a very powerful tool to give scammers access to.

The original rationale seems to be that people were posting DoVs to prolong Hiatus enough for an important CfJ to pass, but a CfJ can just do the usual “if anyone exploited this loophole while the CfJ was resolving, they shall be punished in the following manner”. Or another CfJ or proposal can mop up afterwards, if someone’s pulled off a bitterly unpopular against-spirit DoV.

Have I missed something? ]

Remove the final four paragraphs of Rule 1.6 (“Calls for Judgment”), and replace “no other DoVs or Time Freezes are still pending” with “no other DoVs are still pending”.

Proposal: Self-Preservation Society

Reached quorum, 8-0. Enacted by Kevan.

Adminned at 03 Sep 2007 14:01:00 UTC

[ Rule 1.1 still seems to have that clause about rules not being able to regulate their own alteration - not only is this pretty much toothless (if I’ve scammed the ability to put an evil, ironclad rule into place, I can use the exact same ability to repeal this paragraph at the same time), it’s been humming a quiet, insane paradox for months: Rule 1.1 itself has a provision barring its own alteration, by saying that “The Ruleset and Gamestate can only be altered in manners specified by the Ruleset”.

All that this paragraph is doing is kidding us that it’s preventing scams, and is perhaps discouraging people from proposing interesting “this rule requires a 2/3rd majority vote to amend” or “requires the Emperor to vote in favour of repealing it” mechanics. I don’t think we need it cluttering up the first rule of the ruleset every single Dynasty. ]

Remove the paragraph beginning “No Rule may contain a provision that bars itself from being altered and/or repealed.” from Rule 1.1 (Ruleset and Gamestate).

Kakzama completed

Raa!

Monday, September 03, 2007

Monster: Schrodinger’s Invisible Lolcat

ZOMG LOL! Its invisible, its life is in a state of paradox and it CAN HAS CHEEZBURGER!!!!!1!11!!!oneone1eleven!!!

Proposal: Overcrowding in Tokyo

Reaches Quorum (7-0-1)
Enacted by Hix

Adminned at 03 Sep 2007 08:12:18 UTC

Add a paragraph to the rule “The City and Neighborhoods” reading

The value recorded after the text “Buildings:” or “Population:” in a Neighborhood’s entry may also be referred to as the number of Buildings or Population (respectively) of that Neighborhood (or other reasonably similar phrases).  Any instructions to change the number of Buildings or Population of a Neighborhood shall be carried out by changing the value recorded after “Buildings:” or “Population:” (respectively) in that Neighborhood’s entry.

.

Add a subrule to the rule “The City and Neighborhoods” called “Overcrowding” with text

A Neighborhood is only big enough to accomodate an amount of Population equal to 10 times the number of buildings in that Neighborhood.

Each Neighborhood has a Vacancy, which is equal to 10 times the number of buildings in that Neighborhood, minus the Population of that Neighborhood (Vacancy may be negative).  Whenever a Kaiju God causes a change in the amount of a Neighborhood’s Buildings or Population, they should also recalculate that Neighborhood’s Vacancy and make an unofficial record of it on [[The City]] document.

If at least one Neighborhood has a negative Vacancy, and at least one Neighborhood has a positive Vacancy, then enough Population is transferred from the Neighborhood with the lowest Vacancy (call it “Neighborhood A”) to the Neighborhood with the highest Vacancy (call it “Neighborhood B”) so that Neighborhood A’s Vacancy becomes zero.  If there is a tie for lowest or highest Vacancy, the Neighborhood with the earliest name lexicographically among the tied Neighborhoods must be considered as Neighborhood A or Neighborhood B respectively.

.

I’ve also got an idea for what to do should the entire City become overcrowded (i.e. there are no Neighborhoods with any Vacancy, and at least one overcrowded Neighborhood).  But this proposal is long enough already.  As written, a City-wide overcrowding crisis will simply be ignored.

Monster: Allizdog

A shift in space-time;
Dark body eclipses land.
Aaah! Run away now!

wheres hix’s part of the city? *edit version*

I just saw that for some reason Hix doesn’t have a spot in the city. Since Oracular has gone idle, Hix should gain control to that sub page.

*edit* my bad. i didn’t see that his named changed. disregard this

Teuthos is finished.

Let’s post our 500x250 pixel portions in comments to this post.

Trouble with the GNDT

I am having trouble with the GNDT. It is telling me

Invalid password for ‘Snowballinhell7001’.
Gamestate not updated.

Why is it doing this and how can I make it stop?

False Alarm

I think I need to go idle again.  My computer is giving me trouble and I don’t think I’ll be able to keep up with this well enough to really play.

Wiki vandalism

Has anyone noticed that there has been a TON of spam on the wiki?  This much spam hasn’t been seen for as long as I can remember.  How effective are the tools we have available for blocking these vandals?

Proposal: Threatening Monsters, Take Two

Reaches Quorum (7-0)
Enacted by Hix

Adminned at 03 Sep 2007 08:07:58 UTC

If the Proposal: “One wing wasn’t even enough” passed, repeal the sub-rule it created.

Add the following sub-rule to Rule 2.1, entitled Attributes:

On each monster e helps to create, each Kaiju God may select a single physical feature suggested by their 500 x 250 pixel section. These three physical attributes will be listed on that Monster’s wiki page. Each attribute is a combination of one, two, or three words describing that attribute, all in lower case.

Each attribute has a value, known as its threat rating. An attribute’s initial threat rating is derived by putting each word of the attribute individually into Google and adding the number of results for each. A Monster’s initial overall threat rating is the sum of the threat rating for each of its attributes.

Tokyo may remove or replace any attribute that e thinks is unfair, inaccurate, unjustified or misleading. Alternatively, such attributes may be challenged by a Call for Judgment.

Thus:

fire 334,000,000
breath 65,800,000
threat: 399,000,000

radioactive 23,500,000
green 463,000,000
tentacles 3,450,000
threat: 490,053,000

I personally think that ‘radioactive green tentacles’ would be perceived by the army to be a much larger threat than just plain old ‘tentacles’. Also, that would level the playing field a bit in all directions—certainly, a ‘green’ monster might garner a 463 million point threat level, if for no other virtue than its being a green monster. But a power player (even one playing for low points rather than high) would have less of a reason to either choose or disavow the ‘radioactive green tentacles’ based only on its points (which by the previous rule would only be 103 thousand points).

Besides, with the previous rule, I had this vision of people running in fear of a green monster, but laughing at loud at a similar monster with radioactive green tentacles, and I can’t imagine any Kaiju God would stand for that, considering the work and long hours they put into creating the menace to begin with.

Also, I thought about tying the current rating to Google, but though it’s a creative way to derive an initial value, Google won’t properly reflect the gamestate. An individual monster, after ravaging half of the island, would probably be considered a higher threat than a new monster, even if they both have ‘silly shark teeth’. Therefore, I think a monster’s current threat level should probably change over time, according to in-game actions by the monster, army, or other Kaiju Gods.

 

Proposal: Threatening Monsters

self-killed
Failed by Hix

Adminned at 03 Sep 2007 07:20:56 UTC

If the Proposal: “One wing wasn’t even enough” passed, repeal the sub-rule it created.

Add the following sub-rule to Rule 2.1, entitled Attributes:

On each monster e helps to create, each Kaiju God may select a single physical feature suggested by their 500 x 250 pixel section. These three physical attributes will be listed on that Monster’s wiki page. Each attribute is a combination of one, two, or three words describing that attribute, all in lower case.

Each attribute has a value, known as its threat rating. An attribute’s initial threat rating is derived by putting each word of the attribute individually into Google and adding the number of results for each. A Monster’s initial overall threat rating is the sum of the threat rating for each of its attributes.

Tokyo may remove or replace any attribute that e thinks is unfair, inaccurate, unjustified or misleading. Alternatively, such attributes may be challenged by a Call for Judgment.

Since I’ve invalidated this specific proposal to hell and back, and so as not to spam folks looking at the front page, I just removed this otherwise repetitive flavor text.

 

Call for Judgment: Because Tokyo is a Giant Monster God Too

Passed 8-0.  Brendan

Adminned at 03 Sep 2007 06:14:40 UTC

[ Putting Josh’s concern up as a tighter-worded alteration to Rule 1.8, and making it a CfJ (since “a Kaiju God feels that an aspect of the game needs urgent attention”). ]

In Rule 1.8 (Dynasties), replace “Each Dynasty is headed by a single Tokyo” with “Each Dynasty is headed by a single Kaiju God, known as the Tokyo”.

Proposal: A very minor ruleset fix

self-killed
Failed by Hix

Adminned at 03 Sep 2007 07:20:24 UTC

Add the following to Rule 1.8, Dynasties:

Unless explicitly stated in the Tokyo’s ascension address, or contradicted by another rule in the ruleset, the Tokyo is always a type of Kaiju God, and may do anything that a Kaiju God may do.

Unless I’m going nuts, that’s currently not explicit. I was wondering whether I could currently join in the exquisite corpse games, but then got to wondering whether I could actually make proposals.

Crap, this proposal may even be illegal.

Proposal: Idle Gods are the Kaiju’s Playthings

Reaches Quorum (7-0)
Enacted by Hix

Adminned at 03 Sep 2007 07:19:10 UTC

Add the following to the end of the final paragraph of Rule 2.1:

Should a Kaiju God involved in creating a Monster go idle, then another Kaiju God may volunteer to take over for em within 24 hours of the announcement of eir idleness. Should no Kaiju God volunteer during this time period, the Monster becomes invalid.

Monster: Kakzama

In the depths of the least holy of worlds, a new, powerful mind is consumed by a sudden, unrelenting hatred…

Proposal: One wing wasn’t even enough

Passed quorum, 8-3. Enacted by Kevan.

Adminned at 03 Sep 2007 07:12:57 UTC

Add the following sub-rule to Rule 2.1, entitled Attributes:

On each monster, each Kaiju God may select a single physical feature from their 500 x 250 pixel section. These three physical attributes are listed on that Monsters wiki page.

Each Attribute as a value, known as its threat rating. An attributes threat rating is derived by putting the name of that attribute into Google and using the number of results. A Monsters overall threat rating is the sum of these three figures.

Tokyo may remove or replace any attribute that he thinks is unfair, inaccurate, unjustified or misleading. Alternatively, such attributes may be challenged by a Call for Judgement.

The Google mechanic: because in monster movies, the one with the most awesome power should ALWAYS win, regardless of which would be technically stronger; and Google is the most convenient arbiter of public tastes that we have to hand. As an example, at the time of writing, a fire-breathing armour-plated tentacle monster would look like this:

Fire breath - 2,400,000
Armour Plating - 393,000
Tentacles - 3,260,000

Giving an overall monster rating of 6,057,000.

I’m sure that this will lead to powergaming, but as Kevan observed in his post below, a high threat rating may not be desirable once the army gets involved.

Sunday, September 02, 2007

Proposal: Attributes meets Mutations

Self-killed, failed by Kevan.

Adminned at 03 Sep 2007 02:09:29 UTC

Enact a new rule, “Monster Attributes”:

After a monster’s initial creation is completed, the initial creator of the monster shall make a post announcing its birth, with the word ‘Birth:’ and the monster’s name in the title. In this post, e will bestow an attribute to the monster. This attribute shall be listed in the wiki page for the monster, under a section labeled ‘Attributes’.

The next two attributes listed in comments to that post shall be likewise assigned to the monster, assuming each attribute is suggested by a different Kaiju God. These attributes shall also be listed on the monster’s wiki page. If either or both Kaiju Gods assigning attributes are different than the original creators, then their name(s) shall be listed on the wiki page after those of the original creators, after the phrase ‘assisted by’.

Each attribute assigned to a monster should correspond to something noted by the assigner from its composite image, and shall be a phrase describing that attribute, such as ‘Terrible Gnashing Eye Teeth’ or ‘Wobbly Wonder Warts’. Following this phrase shall be the mutation given by the attribute, which should generally fit the description of the attribute. The mutation shall be chosen from those listed in the “Monster Mutations” following this rule.

If e believes that an attribute is inappropriate for the monster, Tokyo may at any time veto any attribute or mutation, reassigning another in its place.

Enact a new sub-rule to “Monster Attributes”, titled “Monster Mutations”:

When selecting an attribute to assign to a monster, the Kaiju God will choose a mutation from the following list to associate with that attribute. Only a single mutation may be assigned to a single attribute. However, the same mutation may be assigned to multiple attributes, if the assigning Kaiju God feels it’s appropriate.

  • Fire-Breathing
  • Radioactive
  • Agile
  • Flying
  • Aquatic
  • Gargantuan
  • Robotic
  • Evil
  • Supernatural
  • Invisibility
  • Powerful Attack
  • Powerful Defense

Is Hix idle or not

I’ve noticed e’s been voting, but is e actually unidle?

Proposal: The I-Spy Book of Giant Monsters

Self-killed.

Adminned at 03 Sep 2007 02:09:06 UTC

[ Adding a system for determining a monster’s attributes from its picture. This gives us a number-of-mutations total which might make a nicely two-edged “combat ability, but also perceived military threat level”, but I’ll leave it open for now. ]

If “Monster Attributes” passed, repeal the rule or section that it created.

Enact a new Rule, “Mutations”:-

Each Giant Monster may have one or more Mutations; these are determined from the image of the Monster, and are listed as text in the Monster Roster. Tokyo may, at any time, refer to the following list and assign Mutations to Monsters as appropriate. (Tokyo’s decision is final, in deciding whether or not a Monster possesses a particular Mutation.)

  • If the monster is emitting fire from its mouth, then it has the Fire-Breathing mutation.
  • If any part of the monster seems to be glowing, then it has the Radioactive mutation.
  • If the monster is standing on top of a building, or climbing one, it has the Agile mutation.
  • If the monster is entirely in the air, it has the Flying mutation.
  • If the monster is partly or wholly immersed in water, then it has the Aquatic mutation.
  • If the monster is taller than a building visible in the picture, it has the Gargantuan mutation.
  • If the monster’s body has some metal parts, it has the Robotic mutation.
  • If the monster has red eyes, it has the Evil mutation.

A Monster’s Threat Level is equal to the number of Mutations that it has.

idle list name change

I noticed that all the idle players are still called monkeys. I’m not sure who to turn to to get that updated so I’ll leave a note for ya’ll lol.