Monday, November 28, 2022

Proposal: Geodesic Showdown

Add a new subrule to the rule “Attraction List”. Call it “Arena Dome” and give it the following text:

The Dome King is either a Visitor or nobody, defaulting to nobody. The current turn’s Dome King is publicly tracked in the Information Center, except that it might track the following turn’s Dome King instead while Advancing the Queues.

The Arena Dome is a Queue. Its Front Effect is “If there is more than one Visitor in this Queue, roll DICE4. The visitor in that position in this Attraction’s Visitor List is the Dome King next Turn. If that position is past the end of the list, nobody is the Dome King next Turn. Any Visitors who are in the front four spots of this Queue, other than the next turn’s Dome King, move to the Plaza.”

Add a new subrule to the rule “Stamps”. Call it “Defending the Title” and give it the following text:

When the current turn’s Dome King experiences the Front Effect of the Arena Dome without having previously left the Arena Dome that turn, they are awarded the K Stamp.

Add the following text to the rule “Rushing Queues” immediately before its final sentence:

If a Queue is Gated, it cannot be Rushed.

Since the multi-armed bandit minigames are the main ones that haven’t died for various reasons, might as well lean into it.

Advancement 11 Report

Grandpa Fuller bought Popcorn at the Popcorn Stand.

Nigel Cartlesham scored 13 at the Ball Toss due to greasy hands. If he somehow did not have greasy hands, he scored 25 instead. Cornelius Overbold scored 22 and Katelyn Dubose scored 21.

Jackie Chan did a lap at the Robot Race and took control of the Robot.

Somewhere in here, Nigel Cardlesham lost his food and received a Y Stamp, possibly affecting his Ball Toss score if it happened before the Ball Toss attempt (see above) but not changing the Champion.

As a final effect of Advancing the Queues, Anderson Cooper became eligible to be Crowned as Champion, although the actual crowning hasn’t happened yet.

Saturday, November 26, 2022

Proposal: Dinner is served

Reached quorum 4 votes to 0. Enacted by Kevan.

Adminned at 28 Nov 2022 16:09:28 UTC

In the subrule “The Food Court”, replace this text

The Food Court is a Gated Attraction.

with this text

The Food Court is a Gated Queue. Rushing the Queue is not allowed for this Queue. Its front effect is: “Admit 10: If the Visitor is carrying 2 different Food items, remove all Food items and award the Visitor a Y stamp”

If this rule is enacted, leave all Visitors currently in the Food Court in the Food Court Queue, and retroactively apply the Front Effect to any Visitor who would have met the criteria for the Front Effect in previous instances of Advance the Queues.

Repeal the “Let’s Eat” subrule.

I think that should address the issue of when to award the Y stamp for the Food Court, and should also be fair to Nigel Cartlesham

Proposal: You Humans Do This For Fun?

Timed out 2 votes to 1. Enacted by Kevan.

Adminned at 28 Nov 2022 16:06:43 UTC

To “The Robot”, add a paragraph:-

The Robot has no need, it claims, for human sustenance. It may not be moved to Bucky’s BBQ Stand, the Popcorn Stand, the Food Court Line or the Bathroom Line. Any If a Food is passed or given to the Robot in any way, that Food is instead lost.

If The Robot is in any of those places at the time of enactment, or is in the Bathroom or the Food Court, move it to The Plaza. If the Robot is carrying any Food at the time of enactment, that Food is lost. Add $2 to the Bucky Group’s Money.

A coda to Solving the Bot Trap, which gives the Proprietor sole control over if and when the Bot leaves the Bathroom - saying instead that the Bot can never enter the Bathroom in the first place (nor other unpleasant human-specific locations).

Friday, November 25, 2022

Queue Advancement 10 Report

Bucky Bot and Grandpa Fuller rode the Ferris Wheel together.

Jonny Sims entered the Maze.

Martin Blacktree bought Brisket.

James Sash bought a Souvenier at the Gift Shop.

Tom Hand scored 17 on the Ball Toss. As the fourth member of his Group to be admitted this turn, his toss awarded a T stamp to Martin Blacktree.

Anderson Cooper entered the Food Court.

Finally, Sophia Vergara took over Robot Operator duty at the Robot Race.

Proposal: Shiny Follower

Passes 4-0 with a quorum in favor. -Bucky

Adminned at 27 Nov 2022 22:17:19 UTC

Create a new subrule to the rule “Visitors”. Call it “The Stalker” and give it the following text:

There is an NPC named “Chase Pleonexi”, who is the Stalker. The Stalker can only Walk to or Rush a Queue if no other Queue has more Souvenier items held by the Visitors in it.

If the Stalker is Jostling or in the Plaza or Bathroom, any Visitor may cause the Stalker to Walk to a Queue, other than its current Attraction, that it can legally Walk to.

Shortly before turning the Traffic Light Red, if the Stalker is Jostling in a Queue but another Queue has more Souvenier items held by its Visitors, the Proprietor should have the Stalker rush the Queue with the most such Souveniers. The Stalker should not otherwise Rush any Queue.

If the proposal “Solving the Bot Trap” failed, remove ” or Bathroom” from the new rule.

Create the “Chase Pleonexi” visitor under the Proprietor’s control, listed last among the Proprietor’s Visitors. Give the “Chase Pleonexi” Visitor a Souvenier item.

Souveniers are currently paperweights. This gives them a payoff - manipulating an NPC into following you around.

Proposal: Solving the Bot Trap

Passes 3-0 after more than 48 hours. -Bucky

Adminned at 27 Nov 2022 22:12:43 UTC

In the rule “Bathroom”, replace

No Visitor can be removed from the Bathroom


No non-NPC Visitor can be removed from the Bathroom

...and solving it for more than just the Robot, in case we acquire more NPCs.

Proposal: Uneasy Lies the Head [Special Case]

Reached quorum 4 votes to 0. Enacted by Kevan.

Adminned at 26 Nov 2022 15:48:03 UTC

In “Mantle Limitations”, replace “The mantle may not be passed.” with:-

The mantle may not be passed, except as a result of a Call for Judgment.

Set the rule “Mantle Limitations” to active.

Putting the other half of Dormantle back up, a week on. Bucky was the only player to specifically vote AGAINST it, citing a (possibly now obsolete?) intention to propose a merit-random victory condition for the dynasty, and their regrets over not having been able to pass the mantle themselves last interregnum.

Maybe we should make it clearer that a player stuck with a victory they don’t wish to take forward can - with the blessing of the group - still pass the mantle by CfJ during interregnum.

Thursday, November 24, 2022

We’ve Seen the Prices at the Zoo

Darknight idles out after a week with no proposals or comments. They controlled no Visitors in the park.

Quorum drops to 4.

Proposal: QA Timing Refinements

Enacts 4-0 with a Quorum in favor. -Bucky

Adminned at 25 Nov 2022 19:36:43 UTC

Add the following text to the end of the rule “Robot Race”:

The Robot Race should always be the last Attraction in the list of Attractions in the Information Center. New Attractions are added to the list immediately before it.

In the list of steps of Advancing the Queues in the rule “Turns”, move the step beginning with “Change the color” to be immediately after the step beginning with “Post a blog entry”.


Now that the R stamp makes the Robot Controller matter mid-Advancement, control changes should be predictably processed after any attraction-based stamp awards. Meanwhile, while it’s unlikely for a Traffic Action between the green light and the summary to require a change in the summary, I’d rather eliminate the possibility entirely.

Thursday, November 24, 2022

Proposal: Popularity Contest

Fewer than a quorum not voting against. Failed 1 vote to 4 by Kevan.

Adminned at 25 Nov 2022 14:48:30 UTC

Add a new subrule to the rule “Stamps”. Call it “Proposal Pride” and give it the following text:

As a Traffic Action, a Visitor who has been in the Plaza since the start of the turn may make a blog post boasting about a proposal, provided that the proposal meets all the following criteria:
* It has not previously been the subject of a valid boast.
* It was authored by their own Group
* It is Popular.
* Either it is currently pending, or it has been enacted during the current Turn.

A post purporting to be a boast but not meeting those criteria is not a valid boast. Upon posting a valid boast (done by their Group on their behalf, specifying which Visitor is boasting), the boasting Visitor is awarded a P stamp for their pride in their Group’s accomplishment, and may not take any further Traffic Actions for the rest of the Turn.

The Plaza crowd is a captive audience, right?

Stamp Black Book, 2nd edition

According to my calculations, the Rarity Values of the currently circulating Stamps are:
T: 19
M: 16
J:  15
F:  11
Z:  1

All others: 20 (but will decrease to 19 or less when actually obtained)

Queue Advancement 9 Report

Kent Tucky and Anderson Cooper rode the Ferris Wheel together, both gaining an F stamp.

Jonny Sims bought Brisket.

Bucky Bot bought Popcorn.

Cornelius Overbold and Katelyn Dubose failed to set new Ball Toss high scores with scores of 20 and 17 respectively. Cornelius Overbold found Joy in the process, earning a J stamp.

Martin Blacktree did a lap of the Robot Race and took control of the Robot for Trapdoorspyder.

Finally, Nigel Cartlesham entered the Food Court.

Proposal: Ninety Pine Chests

Timed out 1 vote to 2. Failed by Kevan.

Adminned at 25 Nov 2022 14:47:32 UTC

Add a new entry to the ‘Other’ list of Keywords in the Appendix, in the correct alphabetical position as follows:

NPC stands for Non-Player Character. NPCs can only exist as defined by dynastic rules, and while they can be more tightly defined within those rules, they must as a minimum standard be game entities that possess some (but not necessarily all) of the characteristics of a Group, but which are not under the ownership (where ‘ownership’ is defined as ongoing direct control) of a single, specific, named Group (although they may be under the ownership of the Proprietor).

We keep using the term “NPC” in dynasties without regard for the fact that the ruleset doesn’t know what that is, and yes, it does occasionally lead to a scammy win. It’s been my laundry list of things to pin down for a while, so here’s a first attempt.

Proposal: Rebooting the Bot

Timed out 3 votes to 3. Failed by Kevan.

Adminned at 25 Nov 2022 14:30:11 UTC

Reword the front effect of the Robot Race to:-

Admit 1: This Visitor becomes the Robot Operator (unless the Visitor’s name is Bucky Bot), and this Visitor’s Group becomes the sole controller of the Visitor whose name is “Bucky Bot”.

Reword “Reward by Proxy” to:-

One Visitor is the Robot Operator: their identity is publicly tracked.

When the Visitor named “Bucky Bot” earns a stamp associated with a letter that it did not already have a stamp for, the Robot Operator is awarded the “R” Stamp.

Set the Robot Operator to be the Visitor who was most recently admitted to the Robot Race, and assign control of the Visitor named Bucky Bot to whichever Group the Robot Operator belongs to.

Repeal the rule “The Robot”.

Making the Robot just a regular Visitor who moves between Groups probably works, doesn’t it? (And making Robot Operator a Visitor, rather than a Group where we also care about a particular Visitor in that group.)

Tuesday, November 22, 2022

Proposal: Bounties of Fun!

Times out and fails 1-4. -Bucky

Adminned at 24 Nov 2022 18:31:57 UTC

Set the special case rule “Bounties” to active. If a majority of EVC’s contained the text “Braai Bounty” change “This sentence names, at the end of this sentence after a colon, a single dynastic resource or variable, which is the Bounty Reward Variable for this dynasty: Royal Gift” to “This sentence names, at the end of this sentence after a colon, a single dynastic resource or variable, which is the Bounty Reward Variable for this dynasty: Brisket”

No scams this time I promise, I just feel like getting some ideas.

Call for Judgment: T Minus One

Reached quorum 5 votes to 0. Enacted by Kevan.

Adminned at 23 Nov 2022 18:44:24 UTC

In the rule “Well-timed Good Times”, change “have the Front Effect of a Queue applied to them” (if that text is present there) to “have Front Effects applied to them”.

Give a T Stamp to a random Visitor controlled by Kevan.

If a Queue Advance has occurred since this CfJ was raised, and if any Group would have received a T Stamp during it under the above amended wording, but did not gain such a Stamp from it, give a T Stamp to a random Visitor who does not already have a T stamp from each such Group.

If the proposal “Good Times Apart” has not yet been resolved, enact a new rule “Good Time Patch”:-

Whenever a proposal called “Good Times Apart” enacts, replace “have Front Effects applied to them” with “have the Front Effects of different Queues applied to them” in the dynastic ruleset immediately after its enactment, and then repeal this rule.

Whenever a proposal called “Good Times Apart” fails, repeal this rule.

The T-Stamp is awarded when “four or more Visitors from the same Group have the Front Effect of a Queue applied to them in the same Turn”.

I’d read this as meaning that if four Visitors reached the front of different Queues at the same time, one of them would get the Stamp. Bucky appears to disagree (or to at least consider it unresolvable), since they did not grant such a Stamp during the most recent Queue Advance and did not consider it a mistake to correct when it was pointed out.

To me the rule reads clearly as allowing a group spread across multiple Queues to receive the Stamp. Did Cornelius have the Front Effect of a Queue applied to him? Yes. Did Lucrezia? Yes. Etc.

Contextually, the rule in question is called “Well-timed Good Times” and praises a feat of “impressive coordination”, which reads as if the rule is intended to apply across multiple synchronised queues. T Stamps were proposed and enacted at a time when all Queues in the game had an Admission size of 3 or fewer, and the later addition of the long, fast Gift Shop queue was an unexpected alternative way to pick up the Stamp. If anyone was reading the initial proposal as “must all be in the same Queue”, it was unremarked upon during voting that the T-Stamp would - under the then-ruleset - be impossible to attain.

(This proposal is also tacking a patch onto the end so that it won’t undercut Good Times Apart if the CfJ resolves first.)

Proposal: It’s No Picnic

Times out and fails 2-3. -Bucky

Adminned at 24 Nov 2022 18:14:07 UTC

Change the front effect of the Food Court Line from “Admit 1: Move the Visitor to the Food Court” to:-

Admit 1: If the the Visitor is carrying Food, move them to the Food Court; otherwise move them to Security.

Add a subrule to “Attraction List” called “Security”:-

Security is a Gated Attraction. A Visitor in Security may only perform a Traffic Action if the Group performing it pays $20 immediately before doing so.

Patrons are reminded that only food and drink purchased from concession stands can be consumed at the Food Court.

Tuesday, November 22, 2022

Queue Advancement 8 Report

Katelyn Dubose rode the Ferris Wheel, finding Joy and a J stamp.

Lucrezia Giolitti entered the Maze.

Jackie Chan entered the Bathroom.

Nigel Cartlesham bought Barbecue.

Shaquille O’Neal bought Popcorn.

Anderson Cooper scored 26 on the Ball Toss, becoming the new Champion. Cornelius Overbold scored 15.

Grandpa Fuller did the Robot Race. Bucky became the Robot Operator.