Friday, January 15, 2010

Proposal: A New {Cat/Mouse} Emerges

Can’t reach quorum with 19 votes against. Failed by Kevan.

Adminned at 16 Jan 2010 10:39:24 UTC

Add a subrule to Rule 2.4 (Cat and Mouse) titled “The Bird Has Left the Nest” which reads as follows:

Should either the Detective or Murderer go Idle, the Guest loses the distinction of being Murderer or Detective, the Executor shall make a blog post as soon as possible announcing that the Idling Guest was the {detective/murderer} and then shall randomly select and notify a new Guest to fill the vacant role. This selected Guest may not already be the Murderer or Detective.

If we have to deal with the risk of Idling, while the concept of having the hostile or friendly in a completely different situation/room/whatever is a bit haphazard, the other possibility, the complete absence of a role, is just plain broken.

Comments

Hix:

15-01-2010 17:24:40 UTC

I think a public discussion is in order to decide how to deal with this issue, once we know just how the Dynasty is going to work.  Currently, nothing bad will happen if the Murderer idles.  This might not be a good solution to the issue, so for now: against

Kevan: he/him

15-01-2010 17:31:45 UTC

(Note that if Rune Master Xan was the Murderer or Detective, this will not trigger, as he has already been idled.)

ais523:

15-01-2010 17:35:09 UTC

for on similar reasoning to Hix, actually. It seems easier to have a sensible Murderer mechanic if we know there’ll always be a Murderer, than if we allow for idling.

digibomber:

15-01-2010 18:04:02 UTC

for

Josh: he/they

15-01-2010 18:53:35 UTC

against

Roujo: he/him

15-01-2010 18:59:59 UTC

imperial I’ll let Kevan speak for me on this =P

Kevan: he/him

15-01-2010 19:02:36 UTC

against It feels wrong, at the moment, that someone would stop being the murderer if they idled for a few days and came back. (Don’t forget that people sometimes idle if they’re going on holiday but intending to return.) I think we need to decide what the murderer is actually doing, first.

Dustin:

15-01-2010 20:04:48 UTC

imperial

yabbaguy:

15-01-2010 20:07:59 UTC

Ooh- good point. Maybe being idle for more than X days and/or idling by activity timeout would be the only triggers, then.

Anonyman:

15-01-2010 20:50:54 UTC

imperial

NoOneImportant:

15-01-2010 20:56:22 UTC

imperial

Nausved:

15-01-2010 21:07:50 UTC

imperial

Purplebeard:

15-01-2010 21:27:29 UTC

imperial

Darknight: he/him

15-01-2010 21:54:40 UTC

against

TrumanCapote:

15-01-2010 22:55:25 UTC

against

If the murderer really does go idle, I’d rather Kevan secretly created a second murderer.  More fun, way trickier, and consistent with the plots of many mystery movels.  You know, the Governess who incorrectly thinks her young pupil is the murderer, and accidentlly kills a reporter who is sniffing around, something silly like that.

tecslicer:

15-01-2010 23:47:57 UTC

imperial

alethiophile:

16-01-2010 00:18:50 UTC

imperial

Thrawn:

16-01-2010 02:53:53 UTC

for
TrumanCapote, if you feel the need why don’t you just propose to remove that sentance?

Apathetic Lizardman:

16-01-2010 03:24:09 UTC

against

Excalabur:

16-01-2010 11:34:31 UTC

imperial

spikebrennan:

16-01-2010 16:15:31 UTC

imperial

Klisz:

16-01-2010 16:25:57 UTC

imperial

Bucky:

16-01-2010 17:29:08 UTC

imperial

Ornithopter:

16-01-2010 18:08:23 UTC

against