Tuesday, April 01, 2025

Call for Judgment: A Page Is Not A List

Popular, 5-0. Enacted by JonathanDark.

Adminned at 01 Apr 2025 20:01:38 UTC

For each attempt to claim a Ladder Combo this dynasty whose target did not appear on the EFF Wordlist wiki page with 5 digits preceding it on the same line of that page, revert any gain of Equity and any addition to the list of Sins that resulted from the claim, and revert the reduction in Discs that occurred when spending a Disc to make that claim attempt.

The “Ladder Combo” rule requires the target to be a Ladder Word, and one of the conditions to be a Ladder Word is that it must be “on the EFF Word List”. This wording seems to refer to the list itself – not to the page containing it. (The text of the rule has “list” as a separate word, implying that it’s the list itself that matters, not anything that might be around it – further evidence that it refers to the list, not the page, is that the name of the page (“EFF Wordlist”) is slightly different. The text in the rule is not a link to the page, and if it were formatted as a link, it would be a broken link; if not for the fact that the page is mentioned in other rules, it would not appear from the rule’s current wording that it even could refer to a wiki page rather than a list.)

This is worded like it is to ensure that it doesn’t revert the proposals which were made as part of the claim attempt.

Comments

Josh: Imperator he/they

01-04-2025 06:59:25 UTC

What specific incidents is this targeting?

ais523:

01-04-2025 07:05:04 UTC

“a” in No Freebies and “in” in the second Careful Word Choice, in addition to any attempts to do that made while the CFJ is pending.

Josh: Imperator he/they

01-04-2025 08:04:13 UTC

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SingularByte: he/him

01-04-2025 13:31:05 UTC

So I’ve been thinking on this and although I was confident at first that I could defend the stance of treating “EFF Word List” as a typo of “EFF Wordlist”, I do feel Ais’s explanation is the stronger reading of the text.

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I will note though that EFF Word List could plausibly refer to the list of Sins as that is the only list of EFF Words that is referred to as a list of words rather than a “wordlist”. That interpretation would break *every* ladder combo though so it’s not the best argument.

JonathanDark: he/him

01-04-2025 15:05:23 UTC

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Raven1207: he/they

01-04-2025 16:18:22 UTC

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