How do we track zombies in Destroyed Plots?
I like the condition.

Ely: How is tracking zombies in destroyed plots relevant to your voting decision? This proposal has no effect on whether or not the “marked as destroyed” text exists, as it is contingent upon a proposal which includes that text.

Since for me a potentially broken Proposal is fine to pass (Something to fight for), but a Victory Condition based on that broken mechanics makes me sceptic :)
Otherwise this would be a for.

I still don’t understand where the question is for how to track zombies on destroyed plots.  Even without context, “Plot is marked as destroyed” just means adding the word “destroyed” to the plot entry somewhere, not deleting the plot itself.

Let’s say I get my plot destroyed.
We create a new Ely plot. Now, we have two squares called say “Ely(2|3)” and any Zombie located in one of my plots actually is in two different places. (there are two “Ely(2|3)”)

The naming of plots is ungoverned by the ruleset. There’s no reason why we can’t call the second plot Ely2, or SecondEly, or Fnord. Or just rename the original plot to Destroyed1.

Ely: From “The Dead” : “It shall be written as Abc(C|R) where Abc is the name of the Farmer owning the Plot”

From “The House”: “no longer owned by any farmer although it continues to be tracked”

Notice that “The House” changes the owner of the plot and “The Dead” coordinates reference the owner of the plot.

[Josh]
It’s the name of the owner that makes the cohordinates.

[guy]
Right, but there’s still a problem: we can’t track Zombies in Destroyed Plots as soon as we have 1 (2?) of them.
Unowned(A|B)=Unowned(A|B)
or
-(A|B)

Seems easy enough to fix and not worth voting the prop down for. And I like the mechanic.

@Ely: Sure we can.  “Zombies are listed in the Garden Patch page next to the Plot where they are located. “

I admit shambling will be more annoying, since you’d need to in GNDT say something like, “Moving Unowned(A|B) (Plot 10)”, but that’s not *broken*, just stupid.

Good point.
CoV.
We need to fix anyway, but it’s not broken. Not very broken. :P

I still think having such an ambiguous Zombie tracking method may be a risk.

The mechanics is great, I’m just concerned by the “maximum + 1” mechanics. I see what brought you there, but the maximum value should do just fine. Maybe even the third maximum, If we feel nice.

That 24 hours should be longer.

Yeah, maybe 36 would be better.

This seems a bit too chance based for me.

Another CoV. Might change :P

The win condition seems too easy to achieve, and I had more of a points system in mind.  For example, killing a zombie (not your own) is 5 points, destroying someone else’s crop with your zombie is 5 points, and destroying someone else’s house with your zombie is 25 points or something along those lines.

But in order for that to happen, we would need a better way of controlling your own zombies.  Idea: having each person control their own zombies instead of one person controlling them all.

I surely prefer aguy’s.
Controlling zombies would make little sense thematically, and I’d prefer to see us united against the Zombies. But yes, maybe it’s too easy to achieve.

Ely: I was just thinking that there would be some incentive for attracting zombies.  Another idea would be to have them randomly spawn 2-3 times per week or something.

[Yoda] Voting down an otherwise reasonable proposal because you had “more of a points system in mind” might be okay from an individual player, but it’s a big deal when it’s coming from an Emperor, where the DEF votes can kill the proposal.

If you have some rough game ideas in mind, to the extent where you will be voting down proposals that contradict them, you should tell us these ideas (even if it’s a brief, skeletal “A Zombie belongs to the Farmer who created it. When a Zombie destroys something, that Farmer gains 1 Victory Point.” proposal). It’d let you confirm that a quorum of players like your idea and want to play that game, and would let us craft proposals without worrying that they might just get rejected because they don’t match the Emperor’s secret plan for his dynasty.

Kevan: I’m voting it down because the victory condition is too easy to achieve.  It becomes a game of last man standing, and new players are automatically disqualified because they start with more deaths than anyone else.  Also, I’ve been really busy as of late and haven’t had the chance to do much other than vote.  I’ve just been throwing ideas out for now because the current ideas haven’t been up up to par and that’s all I have time to do.

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