Thursday, January 25, 2007

Proposal: Act of Contrition

5-2, timed out. Enacted by Elias IX.

Adminned at 28 Jan 2007 12:14:00 UTC

Tearfully addressing the press conference, the disgraced former champion admitted his past misconduct.

Add a new dynastic rule, entitled “Act of Contrition”, as follows:

At any time, any Olympian with a Popularity of less than zero may make a post to the Blog that states “I request forgiveness” (such post being called a “Request for Forgiveness.”  Any Olympian (other than the Olympian who posted the Request for Forgiveness) may post a comment to the Request for Forgiveness, and if such a comment contains the text “I forgive you” (or text having a substantially similar meaning in the discretion of the Coach) (such a comment being called a “Grant of Forgiveness”), then the Olympian who posted the Grant of Forgiveness is awarded either one (1) Popularity point or two (2) TP, as the Olympian chooses.  If three (3) or more Olympians post Grants of Forgiveness with respect to a particular Request for Forgiveness, then the Olympian who posted that Request for Forgiveness has eir Popularity reset to zero (0).  Any Olympian who posts a Request for Forgiveness (whether or not any Grants of Forgiveness are posted) may no longer attempt to Cheat under Rule 2.3.3 for the remainder of this Dynasty.

Comments

alethiophile:

01-25-2007 21:23:51 UTC

for  I sorta like it….

Clucky: HE/HIM

01-25-2007 21:51:58 UTC

against

Cheaters cheated. That makes it way too easy to get out of the popularity hole caused by cheating.

spikebrennan:

01-25-2007 22:05:43 UTC

This is easy?  In order to get your Popularity restored to zero, not only would this proposal have to pass, but additionally you would have to convince at least three Olympians to forgive you.

I proposed this to make the home stretch of this dynasty a bit more of a close race: as it is right now, there are basically three Olympians who have a significant number of Medals: Doremi, Chin and me.  But Chin and I both have Popularity at -9, which means that the multiplier kills our chances.  The opportunity for forgiveness would even the playing field.

Bucky:

01-25-2007 22:52:54 UTC

*cough*

Scaramouche:

01-26-2007 00:44:28 UTC

for

Elias IX:

01-26-2007 01:11:12 UTC

for

Clucky: HE/HIM

01-26-2007 02:01:01 UTC

Where did my reply to this go?

All this takes is four cheaters to remove the effect from them having cheated. Cheating is bad. The people who cheated deserve their punishment.

Doremi:

01-26-2007 06:03:00 UTC

against for obvious reasons

Clucky: HE/HIM

01-26-2007 15:24:54 UTC

Remeber if you really want to get out of the hole, you can sell your medals. But it isn’t fair that Doremi can not cheat, only to get burned by those who cheated and got all the penalties removed.

spikebrennan:

01-26-2007 15:41:00 UTC

“Cheating is bad”.  You’re acting as if “cheating” (within the context of the ruleset of this Dynasty) carries ethical baggage, rather than simply being a label for a technical concept under the Rules.  If it were called “Accelerated Training” rather than “Cheating” (and “Assisted Rehabilitation” rather than “Forgiveness”), would you still feel this way?

Clucky: HE/HIM

01-26-2007 16:11:03 UTC

No. I wouldn’t. But it is called “cheating” for a reason—its like taking steroids. The public still hasn’t forgiven real life cheaters, why should they forgive you guys. The penalties for cheating were designed to be very strict to discourage people from doing it. I don’t see why we should lighten up the penalties just because popularity helps achieve victory.

*notices that Doremi actually has cheated, just never got caught*.

alethiophile:

01-26-2007 17:40:41 UTC

That’s a nonsensical aspect of our cheat system—you can notice it all you want, but can’t do anything unless the roll is right.

alethiophile:

01-26-2007 20:05:54 UTC

Also, you can cheat so that no one notices it, no one knows about it, and still get “caught”.

ChinDoGu:

01-26-2007 22:51:21 UTC

for To my mind, a few people cheated, we were just the ones that got particularly bad luck and got caught.  Because of that bad luck we are now out of contention for the rest of the dynasty.  There should be SOME way to fix this.  Mabey add a cost to doing so?

Bucky:

01-27-2007 20:45:20 UTC

You are still in contention;  You just need to earn twice as many medals.  Also, there is already a method of raising your popularity (by giving up a few medals).