Wednesday, March 10, 2021

Proposal: Apathy Tax

Timed out and failed, 4-5. Josh

Adminned at 12 Mar 2021 09:33:30 UTC

In the rule “The Masquerade”, after

Increase by 2 the Political Power of each Elector whose Secret Faction is the same as the Winnower’s.

add a new list entry:

* Reduce by 2 the Political Power of each Elector who has not authored a Proposal since the last Masquerade.

Comments

Raven1207: he/they

10-03-2021 06:47:08 UTC

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Raven1207: he/they

10-03-2021 06:48:14 UTC

That didn’t work…

Raven1207: he/they

10-03-2021 06:48:29 UTC

Clucky: he/him

10-03-2021 06:52:45 UTC

I like the idea to encourage activity, but do worry it might result in people just throwing up meaningless proposals.

Josh: he/they

10-03-2021 08:25:44 UTC

imperial

Kevan: he/him

10-03-2021 09:57:13 UTC

for

Lulu: she/her

10-03-2021 12:06:28 UTC

imperial

Lulu: she/her

10-03-2021 12:07:25 UTC

against actually

Raven1207: he/they

10-03-2021 12:18:10 UTC

against

Brendan: he/him

10-03-2021 12:36:28 UTC

for

Zack: he/him

10-03-2021 13:17:19 UTC

against

Josh: he/they

10-03-2021 13:47:21 UTC

At the moment this is failing 3-5 but a single FOR vote will flip it to passing 6-3. Imperial Defs!

pokes:

10-03-2021 14:58:33 UTC

for (@Josh is that true?)

Josh: he/they

10-03-2021 16:19:39 UTC

Yes! Imperial Defs works in a really perverse way!

Kevan: he/him

10-03-2021 16:31:55 UTC

That’s not very perverse. If Imperial DEFs were switched off, this proposal would have been tied at 3-3 with 2 unresolved DEFs. If we waited for it to time out, we’d be in the same “a single FOR vote will flip it from failing to passing” situation.

pokes:

10-03-2021 17:22:31 UTC

Josh/Kevan: are you both missing Jumble’s CoV to against?

Clucky: he/him

10-03-2021 20:25:15 UTC

One big concern I have with this is that it could be activated right before the next masquerade takes place, and so people not have time to respond.

Make the same proposal with a season gate so it doesn’t kick in so soon (i.e. “If the season is at least 6, Reduce by 2 the Political Power of each Elector who has not authored a Proposal since the last Masquerade.”) and I’ll probably vote for

against

Bucky:

10-03-2021 20:27:18 UTC

Other Electors should have plenty of time to respond while this is pending.

Josh: he/they

10-03-2021 20:58:48 UTC

@pokes Ah yeah, I had missed that

Clucky: he/him

11-03-2021 00:12:46 UTC

@Bucky but that is an action they might only want to take if this thing passes

A rule like “Every Elector who transfers 1 power to Clucky during the last season gets a cookie” would be bad without any sort of season guard, because if you want to get a cookie you have to give me power. But you’re stuck either giving me power and hoping the thing passes and you get a cookie; or not giving me power and hoping you have time between when it passes and when the new season begins.