Wednesday, January 24, 2024

Proposal: [Appendix] A Sticky Situation

Popular, 4-0. Enacted by JonathanDark.

Adminned at 25 Jan 2024 13:59:03 UTC

In the Appendix in the “Keywords” section, under the “Other” subsection, add the following entry in the correct alphabetical location:

;Sticky Post: A blog post where the “Make Entry Sticky” option has been enabled. Changing the state of this option is not considering altering or modifying the post with regards to the rules on Official Posts. The sticky status of posts should generally be left to the discretion of the Mainframe.

Allowing for Sticky Posts to be managed and cleaned up without disturbing gamestate or dynastic turnover. If there’s a question about who should be able to make posts sticky, it’s my opinion that the issue of sticky post rights should be addressed in a different Proposal, perhaps a Building Block if that’s appropriate.

Comments

Clucky: he/him

24-01-2024 23:50:19 UTC

I’m worried “The state of this option is neither ruletext nor gamestate and may be changed at any time by the post author or an admin.” almost gives people too much permission

Its unclear if legally I’d be allowed to simply sticky a proposal I made for whatever reason. Its a bridge we haven’t had to cross, but if I had to state I would say “no you shouldn’t be able to do that” yet this would give explicit permission to be able to do it

naught:

25-01-2024 00:03:24 UTC

I think a “but changing its state should not be done unless otherwise specified” added to the end of that sentence would fix it.

JonathanDark: he/him

25-01-2024 00:07:16 UTC

The way I see it, there’s two different controls here:

* Who is allowed to set a post sticky?

* When is an author or an admin allowed to un-sticky a post?

I’m trying to address the latter without addressing the former. Maybe that’s incorrect and I should try to do both.

JonathanDark: he/him

25-01-2024 00:08:54 UTC

The reason I kept them separate is for exactly what happened in this dynasty transition: the Emperor changed, but it’s unclear who can or should un-sticky any left-over sticky posts.

Clucky: he/him

25-01-2024 00:18:26 UTC

Can we just remove “The state of this option is neither ruletext nor gamestate and may be changed at any time by the post author or an admin.”?

Or maybe replace it with something like

“The sticky status of posts should generally be left to the discretion of the Emperor”?

JonathanDark: he/him

25-01-2024 00:55:07 UTC

Ok, I’ve replaced it with your suggestion. I’ve replaced “Emperor” with the current synonym.

naught:

25-01-2024 00:56:41 UTC

Wouldn’t the whole “I sticky this post for the lulz” be discouraged anyway by the “Thou shalt not spam” rule in Fair Play? If you don’t feel that way, then adding a line to that effect would do the job, no?

JonathanDark: he/him

25-01-2024 01:20:53 UTC

I felt like we’ve referenced “sticky post” in dynastic rules enough that it deserved its own formal definition. This also allows potential dynastic rules that let non-Emperors sticky posts to signal something or another. I’d rather not make an overbroad rule in Fair Play about it.

naught:

25-01-2024 04:05:37 UTC

for

Josh: he/they

25-01-2024 09:30:35 UTC

for

Desertfrog:

25-01-2024 10:12:54 UTC

for