Tuesday, April 08, 2025

Proposal: [Appendix] Consistent Timing

Reached quorum 9 votes to 0. Enacted by Kevan.

Adminned at 09 Apr 2025 12:52:49 UTC

Amend the Appendix rule Date and Time Tracking to be the following:

The Entry Date field of an Official Post may be modified by its author, an Admin, or the Concierge, only under the following conditions and only in the following ways:
* If an Official Post is older than 7 days but needs to remain Sticky on the front page of the Blog then its Entry Date may be edited to the time of the edit, to within a minute, with the original date and time at which it was posted added to the Commentary or flavour text field of that post, in which case the original time of posting remains the time at which it was posted.
* If an Official Post has been made visible on the blog within the preceding 6 hours, then the Entry Date field may be amended to match the timestamp for the first revision of the post (i.e. the timestamp for the initially posted version).

The main reason I’m altering this is to solve two issues:
1) Sometimes posts get misordered where one is posted first and the other slips in front of it in the queue. If both modify the same locations of the ruleset, this can be somewhat messy, especially in cases where there’s no edit window.
2) If we drastically reduce the edit window at any future point, we want to give the ability to reclaim as much of the true edit window as possible rather than having people unintentionally burn up half their window.

I figure 6 hours is enough for voters to adapt if someone does end up moving it, but I wouldn’t object to going down as low as maybe an hour.

Comments

ais523:

08-04-2025 12:37:45 UTC

Not voting yet as this is in edit window, but I approve of this – there have been some high-profile cases where getting the order exactly right matters (in at least one previous dynasty, that determined victory), and if proposals appear in the wrong order they are quite likely to be accidentally adminned in the wrong order, causing the newer proposal to not apply its changes.

Josh: he/they

08-04-2025 13:08:38 UTC

Any reason why the commentary is in the proposal text rather than the commentary box?

SingularByte: he/him

08-04-2025 13:23:58 UTC

That’s just the current css, I believe. If you peek in the edit screen, it’s in the right place.

Kevan: Concierge he/him

08-04-2025 13:26:48 UTC

Oh, sorry, that was me trying some different things with the CSS, didn’t occur to me it might read as part of the proposal body. I’ll make that clearer.

Kevan: Concierge he/him

08-04-2025 15:33:14 UTC

for I never knew that the timestamp for the first revision was different from the Entry Date! Always assumed they were the same and that we’d never know when a blog entry had truly been posted.

ais523:

08-04-2025 16:17:19 UTC

for

Josh: he/they

08-04-2025 16:46:34 UTC

for

JonathanDark: he/him

08-04-2025 17:04:09 UTC

for

Darknight: he/him

08-04-2025 17:09:23 UTC

for

Clucky: he/him

08-04-2025 17:53:49 UTC

for

DoomedIdeas: he/him

08-04-2025 18:18:54 UTC

for

qenya: she/they

08-04-2025 19:35:35 UTC

for (and restating my perennial concern about depending on an unmaintained blog engine whose bugs we have to keep working around)