Wednesday, July 28, 2021

Proposal: [Appendix] Half the Pressure

Enacted 5-3. Josh

Adminned at 30 Jul 2021 09:22:39 UTC

In the subrule “Official Posts”, change “An official post may be altered by its author if it is less than eight hours old” to “An official post may be altered by its author if it is less than 4 hours old”.

Maybe we overshot with 8.

Comments

Josh: he/they

28-07-2021 09:03:40 UTC

against I like the 8 hour window; if this dynasty has demonstrated anything it’s that the cycle of the game is currently at around the 12 hour mark, and that most people don’t want to check in too many times in the day. Many proposals this dynasty have been improved thanks to scrutiny from multiple timezones, and even the slightly slower queue doesn’t feel to me like a massive cost of that. In short: I’m a fan. Happy to keep it at 8.

Kevan: City he/him

28-07-2021 10:31:21 UTC

People not wanting to check in too many times per day seems a strong argument against a long edit window, for me. The larger the edit window, the more likely that any given visit is going to have some proposals which you aren’t allowed to vote on yet - and that you could be wasting your time giving a close read to, if you’ll just have to close-read them again during your next limited-time visit to the game.

Eight hours of discussion does allow for improvements, but how many of those are critical fixes? For non-critical iterations, follow-up proposals are fine, and feel more Nomic, to me - instead of raising a point prior to voting and letting my opponent decide whether and how to incorporate it, I can put my own spin on it, to be voted on by itself.

for

Josh: he/they

28-07-2021 10:39:37 UTC

On the subject of close reads - I feel like this dynasty has seen more close reading of proposals and less nod-along voting, which has led to an overall greater level of grasp of the ruleset. Another good thing imo

Kevan: City he/him

28-07-2021 13:50:10 UTC

It’s been a good dynasty for proposal volume, tactical play and thoughtful voting, but I’d say that was mostly down to a good group of players and a compelling dynastic game, rather than the size of the voting window.

Brendan: he/him

28-07-2021 14:25:27 UTC

for

Raven1207: he/they

28-07-2021 15:56:43 UTC

for

lemon: she/her

29-07-2021 00:18:55 UTC

against per josh!

Chiiika: she/her

29-07-2021 17:08:07 UTC

against. Although it’s protosal area, if I can’t use the whole 8 hours of edit window on the Betterment of the Ruleset,One Proposal at a Time it would be very hard to do that.

Clucky: he/him

29-07-2021 19:32:20 UTC

for Per Kevan

ais523:

30-07-2021 08:57:40 UTC

This proposal should have been named “double the pressure”, really. I don’t look forward to having to check BlogNomic every 4 hours to be able to catch proposals while they’re still in their edit window.