Thursday, March 04, 2021

Proposal: Ascension staging [Core]

Timed out and enacted, 5-1. Josh

Adminned at 06 Mar 2021 10:59:27 UTC

In the rule Victory and Ascension, change

Between the enactment of the DoV and the posting of the Ascension Address, no new DoV may be made and BlogNomic is on Hiatus.

to

Between the enactment of the DoV and the completion of any changes to the ruleset and gamestate mandated in the Ascension Address, no new DoV may be made and BlogNomic is on Hiatus.

Remove the last paragraph of the rule The Elective Monarchy.

There is a window in V&A where a dynasty can be hijacked by a well-timed snipe . Hiatus runs until an AA is posted, but there is a gap between the posting of the AA and its enactment in the ruleset where that ruleset is live, and another player can (if they also meet its Victory criteria) plop down a quick DOV and have legitimately won. I’m not sure that’s even a core rules scam.

Comments

Kevan: he/him

04-03-2021 16:47:37 UTC

for

Zack: he/him

04-03-2021 18:12:25 UTC

for

Bucky:

04-03-2021 19:54:53 UTC

against

“When such an Ascension Address is posted, the Ruleset is updated to reflect any changed terms, and any dynastic rules which were not listed to be kept are repealed.” The repeal happens simultaneously with the posting of the ascension address, regardless of when someone updates the tracking document.

Josh: he/they

04-03-2021 20:33:29 UTC

Which would be true, if it weren’t for the fact that Representations of the Gamestate says:

For gamestate which is tracked in a specific place (such as a wiki page), any alteration of that gamestate as a result of an Elector’s action is (and can only be) applied by editing that data in that place

- and, let’s remember, the ruleset is nothing more than gamestate that’s tracked on a wiki page.

Brendan: he/him

04-03-2021 21:46:09 UTC

for

Raven1207: he/they

05-03-2021 17:03:48 UTC

for