Thursday, July 18, 2019

Proposal: Autogauntlet

Timed out 1 vote to 4. Failed by Kevan.

Adminned at 20 Jul 2019 18:43:57 UTC

In “Duel”, replace “Any valid opponent may become the opponent by stating such intention in a comment on the blog entry.” with:-

Any valid opponent may become the opponent by stating such intention in a comment on the blog entry; if only one valid opponent was listed by the challenger, they automatically become that duel’s opponent.

Removing the option to ignore a duel that calls you out directly.

Comments

derrick:

07-18-2019 18:51:16 UTC

This places all the power in the hands of those who declare duels first. In combination with choice of battleground, its fine, but without it, he who declares the battleground first will win 9 times out of 10.

TyGuy6:

07-18-2019 18:56:30 UTC

Two problems with this:
1. Unfair judges can be chosen, making every duel a safe bet. Easy to fix if the King is required as the judge in this proposal. Broken otherwise.
2. Battlefields are chosen by the aggressor, unless we pass derrick’s proposal first.

End result is aggressive duel generation.

Kevan:

07-18-2019 19:02:20 UTC

And what do we do if the opponent refuses to choose a battleground? It’s all going to come down to some kind of timeout for refusing to fight.

Kevan:

07-18-2019 19:03:14 UTC

That was just responding to Derrick. What’s an “unfair judge”?

TyGuy6:

07-18-2019 19:14:26 UTC

Scenario: Kaia battles Kevan, chooses Cuddlebeam as judge. Kevin wins by a near margin. Cuddlebeam declines to offer judgment. (Repeatable until Kaia wins.)

New proposal is voted in that judges must judge in order. No longer repeatable with same judge, in same pair-off, but Kaia still gets one “extra life”.

TyGuy6:

07-18-2019 21:14:29 UTC

against
It’s a good plan, it’s just a few renovations premature.

And… I’m actually hopeful that we can come to finish the trial by duels voluntarily!

Ienpw III:

07-18-2019 21:14:57 UTC

against

derrick:

07-18-2019 21:41:13 UTC

against

with tyguy. forced duels are fine, but not until some restrictions are in play.

naught:

07-20-2019 01:35:42 UTC

I like this proposal if Choice of Battlefield passes, so imperial  until it is more clear whether that will pass or not.

Kevan:

07-20-2019 09:13:43 UTC

If Choice of Battlefield passes this one will have no effect - either textually (the text it is replacing will no longer exist) or logically (an opponent who doesn’t want to fight a duel can refuse to select a battlefield from the three options).