Friday, July 06, 2018

Proposal: Backlogged Changes

timed out 5-0 with 3 def votes enacted by card

Adminned at 08 Jul 2018 06:57:54 UTC

Add to the list of cards in Deck

# X Guards (2) [Person] May be attached to any community by spending an amount of Thaum no greater than 5 and replacing the X in the name of this card with the spent amount > If an effect would decrease a rating of this community, prevent 1 of that decrease and also decrease the number in the name of this card by 1. Unattach this card if it’s name ever becomes “0 Guards” / If this card was changed from the Up state to the Down state, detach it. Roll a DICE5 in the GNDT and then increase the War of a friendly community by that amount.
# Road (4) [Structure] Must have 2 communities which are friendly towards you, each having a culture and economy rating above 2 > Choose two communities which satisfy this card’s condition, henceforth called A and B. Create two Road To X cards where on one card X is the name of community A and on the other card X is the name of community B. Attach the two cards to the aforementioned communities such that A has Road To B and community B has Road To A / Nothing happens.

Change the type of Mudling Robes, Barban Loincloth, Redlander Afgan and Grassfolk Toga to Object

Rename Grassfolk to Grassfolk Acropolis
Rename Caves to Barban Den

In Flip change “Choose a number of cards” to

Choose a number of cards attached to the community you are currently in

Make a new rule called “The Devil’s Playthings” with the text

When an idle Wizard who was unidle earlier in the Dynasty unidles they must discard all cards in their hand that are in another Wizard’s hand and must also discard at least half of the hand they unidled with.

Idle hands are the devil’s playthings



06-07-2018 03:02:13 UTC

“must discard all cards that other Wizards have in hand” can be heavily misinterpreted


06-07-2018 03:37:39 UTC

ah thanks, fixed the wording

Kevan: City he/him

06-07-2018 08:17:03 UTC



06-07-2018 09:48:07 UTC


Kevan: City he/him

06-07-2018 09:57:38 UTC

Wait, how does “must also discard at least half of the hand they unidled with” work? If an admin unidles a player, the player has to choose and discard as part of that unidling (even if they’re offline at that point)?

derrick: he/him

06-07-2018 13:01:19 UTC

X Guards is an odd rider on a bunch of fixes.

The down effect is a little too powerful for my taste. It increases the legacy of a wizard by an average of 2.5 per day, and you don’t have to spend any extra thaum on it. In fact, you could spend 0 Thaum, and the “Unattach 0 Guards” clause won’t trigger, because that’s only on the up state.

Either that or it does nothing because its not attached to a wizard, and communities don’t have attitudes towards each other. 

Please shred, and then I will vote for this.


06-07-2018 14:49:58 UTC

[derrick] “It increases the legacy of a wizard by an average of 2.5 per day” you can’t attach it in its down state but I suppose I should change the “becomes” to “is”

[Kevan] I don’t believe the rule makes it part of the unidling rule, as in if you don’t do this step they aren’t unidled, but it’s simply the first action they must do after being unidled. even if they’re offline when unidled it’s something they could do later.


06-07-2018 14:50:24 UTC

oh yeah SHRED Guard


06-07-2018 14:50:41 UTC

SHRED X Guards

derrick: he/him

06-07-2018 14:53:51 UTC


Kevan: City he/him

07-07-2018 10:08:07 UTC

[card] I don’t think there’s any rule saying that a “must” clause means “player cannot take other actions until doing this”, is there? We’ve certainly talked about versions of that, but never enacted anything.

But this will never trigger anyway - if someone unidles with a duplicate card, their hand is illegal (“No more than one Wizard may have a given card in their hand at a time”) and will be set to the default, blank value by the unidling rule.

Kevan: City he/him

07-07-2018 11:58:47 UTC

(Well, the duplicate-catch won’t trigger, the “must also discard at least half of the hand they unidled with” will. I’ll propose a fix.)


07-07-2018 21:13:05 UTC