Monday, February 03, 2025

Proposal: Body building

Withdrawn. Failed by JonathanDark.

Adminned at 04 Feb 2025 15:14:25 UTC

In The Crew {M}, change the sentence after “Muscle is a Role” to:

As a Heist Action which is a weekly action, the Muscle can swap two words in the rules text of Mutable rules, as long as either a) both words are adjacent in the same rule or b) there are at least 5 different letters that appear in both words.

In The Crew {M}, change the sentence after “Archivist is a Role” to:

As a Heist Action, an Archivist can reset the text of a sentence in the ruleset to have the text it had immediately after the enactment of the last proposal that altered that sentence.

At present, there are three weekly roles. Driver and Double Agent already have fairly powerful effects that may compensate for the difficulty of using a weekly role action. However, Muscle doesn’t – in most cases the action isn’t usable at all; and even when it is, it is only indirectly useful in scoring. Banker is also mostly irrelevant at the moment because its effects are limited to making words count as real words and thus usable as Tools of the Trade bridges.

This proposal is intended to make Muscle and Banker stronger – making Muscle stronger because it can now swap words that have multiple letters in common (in addition to swapping adjacent words), and making Banker stronger because the words it banks can be swapped for other words and thus become non-flavour-text. Some experiments with potential uses of this showed that allowing it with 4 letters in common made things too easy, so I went up to 5 (written as a numeral because single-digit numbers are automatically protected now).

This also reboots the text of Archivist so that the role actually works again.

Comments

Habanero:

03-02-2025 14:08:15 UTC

“there are at least 5 different letters that appear in both words” is a little ambiguous. It’s arguably fulfilled if two words, taken together, have at least 5 different letters between them (which is almost any pair of words). Not the clear interpretation but a workable one nonetheless. I’d much prefer “the two words have 5 different letters in common”

for regardless, I’ll leave it to the group to determine if this is a real issue

Habanero:

03-02-2025 14:13:09 UTC

As an example, ‘any’ and ‘some’ are arguably swappable under this rule since both words, taken together, contain the letters ‘a’, ‘n’, ‘y’, ‘s’, ‘o’

Snisbo: she/they

03-02-2025 15:33:01 UTC

for Agreed with habanero, that probably needs a fix

Did you intentionally remove your banker fix or was that accidental?

ais523:

03-02-2025 17:09:12 UTC

What banker fix are you referring to?

SingularByte: he/him

03-02-2025 18:16:37 UTC

for

Brendan: he/him

03-02-2025 18:25:33 UTC

against I don’t see what the plan is for Muscle but this is a little too specific of a change for my comfort.

JonathanDark: he/him

03-02-2025 20:14:10 UTC

If both Masterminds are ok with it, then I am.

imperial

Habanero:

03-02-2025 21:05:46 UTC

CoV against per Brendan, I’m a little suspicious of the potential applications here

Raven1207: Monarchple he/they

04-02-2025 00:36:39 UTC

against

ais523:

04-02-2025 06:47:10 UTC

against Withdrawn because a) it doesn’t seem that popular and b) the wording concerns are concerning.

Maybe having a useless role is OK, or maybe someone has a secret use for it, or maybe someone else will have a shot at making it useful.