Saturday, October 14, 2023

Declaration of Victory: Born Ready

It has a number of FOR Votes greater than 2/3rds of the number of Punters,
it has been open for at least 12 hours,
and either the Bookie has Voted FOR it

So this is popular—Clucky

Adminned at 15 Oct 2023 05:29:40 UTC

Per https://blognomic.com/archive/closing_time1 I have achieved victory in this dynasty

Comments

Josh: he/they

14-10-2023 15:57:11 UTC

for

JonathanDark: he/him

14-10-2023 16:19:28 UTC

for

Kevan: he/him

14-10-2023 16:45:37 UTC

for

Bucky:

14-10-2023 19:47:46 UTC

against
I cannot be confident, with the information available to me, that the purported final account balances are accurate.

JonathanDark: he/him

14-10-2023 19:54:45 UTC

@Bucky: do you think the Bookie is malicious or biased, or do you think there are mathematical errors?

Bucky:

14-10-2023 19:57:37 UTC

I think it’s more likely than not that the Bookie has made errors of some sort, and I lack the necessary information to determine what kind of errors or how impactful they would be.

JonathanDark: he/him

14-10-2023 20:01:54 UTC

I guess it’s up to Josh whether he wants to reveal his spreadsheets or not. At the moment, 4 is enough in favor, with the Bookie voting FOR, to enact this after 3:45 UTC.

Josh: he/they

14-10-2023 20:03:32 UTC

Actually it isn’t - I can’t reveal anything, per “If a piece of information is described as being tracked secretly or privately by the Bookie (including secretly random selections), then that information may only be revealed by the Bookie when the ruleset allows it”. This is a typical Bucky, I’m afraid - if he’d sincerely wanted to audit the numbers he would have had to have proposed something to allow for them to be so audited while the dynasty was ongoing.

Bucky:

14-10-2023 20:12:19 UTC

It’s essentially the same objection that I made ahead of time on Closing the Box, but in hindsight rather than foresight.

JonathanDark: he/him

14-10-2023 20:20:53 UTC

You could post a CfJ to allow (or even require) that Josh release his spreadsheets.

JonathanDark: he/him

14-10-2023 20:21:53 UTC

Or rather just CfJ to remove all instances of the word “secret” in the dynastic rules.

Josh: he/they

14-10-2023 20:28:00 UTC

I would refuse to comply, honestly.

Clucky: he/him

14-10-2023 20:44:48 UTC

Josh almost assuredly made some mistakes. (For example, I was at 165 Readies going into the final round of betting. I then made two bets at 99 readies each, and won 126 readies from one of them, putting me at 192 readies prior to liquidation. Liquidation gave me another 145 so I should have been at 337 readies not the reported 347 readies) but

a) each of us are able to validate our own ready math. I can confirm that from my math, the 337 total is correct. So unless you are suggesting that your total is wrong by a significant amount too… what reason do you have for why I wouldn’t have the most readies?

b) What is your path forward for the dynasty if you don’t think that I have won?

Bucky:

15-10-2023 01:15:05 UTC

a) Josh might’ve made errors resolving events as well.
b) I’ll figure that out if the DoV fails.

Clucky: he/him

15-10-2023 04:01:27 UTC

Alright. Well I’m sure everyone thanks you for delaying the game for another 12 hours!

Clucky: he/him

15-10-2023 05:29:04 UTC

oh wait that is an OR not and AND we’re okay