I’m worried that this rule is going in the wrong direction. Rather than a basically impossible condition (along the lines of “nobody can win for 1000 days”) that is relaxed over time via proposal or other means, it starts with a relatively weak set of conditions designed to be added to; thus, I fear that a quick scam could lead to the whole thing being fulfilled very quickly. (Idle AGAINST.)

@ais523:This isn’t actually a victory condition yet

ais: the creation of these rules would make it harder to gain victory, without making it easier, or even possible, without a further gamestate change.

but note that Bucky’s clone-number is 2.

@lilomar: In that case, I fear we might get a situation like in the first dynasty of Darth Cliche or the fifth of Kevan, where someone has a good plan to win but is incapable of carrying it out due to being barred from doing so by the rules (although in both of those cases, the bar was effectively placed at random, rather than being based on player actions as happens here).

Players in such a situation tend to form “suicidal alliances” where they try the best they can to aid another player to win, completely ignoring their own personal gamestate (just like I failed to help Ienpw III win Darth’s dynasty, and Darth succeeded in helping flurie win Kevan’s). It tends, therefore, to lead to a rather politicized and desperate end to a dynasty that doesn’t have much in common with what happened before it.

These requirements are trivial to achieve for UV citizens, and close to impossible for lower-levels.