Saturday, May 22, 2021

Proposal: But do you want to?

Timed out 3 votes to 5. Failed by Kevan.

Adminned at 24 May 2021 20:06:16 UTC

In the rule Mantle Limitations, replace the text

During an Interregnum, the Mantle may not be passed to another Broker (the Protege) if there exists another Broker, who has not been Collector, with higher Kudos than the Protege.

with the following:

During an Interregnum, the Mantle may not be passed to another Broker (the Protege) if there exists another Broker, who has not been Collector, with higher Kudos than the Protege and is willing to receive the mantle.

Just a little clause to prevent a catch-22 situation where there is a Broker who meets the other requirements but does not actually want the Mantle.

posted by Trapdoorspyder at 22 May 2021 19:51:00 UTC Comments (12)

Comments

Tofuna:

22-05-2021 20:14:58 UTC

for

Clucky: he/him

22-05-2021 20:53:52 UTC

for

pokes:

22-05-2021 21:23:59 UTC

against The unwilling party can re-pass if they want; this adds a minor problem of needing to define willingness.

lemon: she/her

23-05-2021 00:39:25 UTC

for but pokes has a good point :0

Janet: she/her

23-05-2021 02:32:25 UTC

against because it’s unknown whether any specific person is willing to receive the mantle, potentially silently invalidating mantle passes.

Trapdoorspyder: he/him

23-05-2021 03:02:07 UTC

True. Could have something like “that broker may then choose to Deny the Mantle. If they do, the Mantle is returned to the Broker that originally passed it, and the Broker who denied the mantle is no longer considered for the purposes of this rule.”

Clucky: he/him

23-05-2021 04:25:50 UTC

@Pokes actually they potentially can’t repass if they want as you can’t pass if a person who hasn’t been emperor before is above you.

I think the undecidedness of “willing” is probably fine. If A passes the mantle to B, but C has more kudos than B and was willing to run they can just speak up with a CfJ

Kevan: he/him

23-05-2021 09:05:43 UTC

against Per Pokes/Jason.

[Clucky] If a person who hasn’t been Emperor is above them, the unwilling mantle recipient can’t have been passed it in the first place.

Clucky: he/him

23-05-2021 16:39:25 UTC

@Kevan not if the person who passed the mantle also hasn’t been Emperor yet

Kevan: he/him

23-05-2021 16:50:08 UTC

That person will have been Emperor while they were holding the mantle: being passed it immediately makes a player into the Emperor.

Clucky: he/him

24-05-2021 05:33:42 UTC

ah fair point against

Raven1207: he/they

24-05-2021 19:00:13 UTC

against