Monday, December 13, 2021

Proposal: Can Opener 2 [Perdurable]

Times out and passes 5-1-4. Enacted without effect by Brendan.

Adminned at 15 Dec 2021 17:33:29 UTC

If at least 8 of the Effective Votes on this proposal are FOR, then repeal the Perdurable Rules “Eternal Emperor” and “Imperial Lineage.”

Some players have expressed sincere interest in being able to win a round of Blognomic but not be emperor afterward. I’m curious about how prevalent that sentiment is among the current group.

Comments

Janet: she/her

13-12-2021 17:33:02 UTC

for

Josh: Observer he/they

13-12-2021 17:36:29 UTC

Hm, I like IL but not EE, what a conundrum.

Josh: Observer he/they

13-12-2021 17:37:10 UTC

Ah, votelocked. Conundrum solved!  against

Kevan: he/him

13-12-2021 17:38:34 UTC

against I share this conundrum.

Snisbo: she/they

13-12-2021 18:01:10 UTC

against I unidled specifically for IL, so I don’t really want to get rid of it so quickly. EE doesn’t bother me because I was almost definitely never going to win.

Clucky: he/him

13-12-2021 18:14:41 UTC

for

Past visibility status are now orphaned variables, and thus IL prevents anyone from achiving victory so we should probably get rid of it

(is also rather bad form to punish people for not wanting to participate in a certain dynasty)

Brendan: he/him

13-12-2021 18:20:37 UTC

[Clucky] “An Orphan Variable is a dynastic gamestate variable which has neither a location in which it’s tracked, nor a reasonable manner in which it can be determined from other gamestate variables”—but it is tracked, specifically on the Book of Souls wiki page, which has a revision history for reasonable determination.

TyGuy6:

13-12-2021 18:48:32 UTC

for

Clucky: he/him

13-12-2021 20:00:18 UTC

the book of souls wiki page is no longer a gamestate variable, nor is its revision history.

So while there is a reasonable manner in which it can be determined, I don’t think there is a reasonable manner in which it can be determined from other gamestate variables. Instead, it can simply be determined from an immutable source.

Brendan: he/him

13-12-2021 20:16:21 UTC

I also don’t believe this can be an Orphan Variable because it’s not “a dynastic gamestate variable.” It doesn’t appear in the dynastic rules.

Clucky: he/him

13-12-2021 20:59:58 UTC

hrm you might be right there

still bad to punish people for not playing in previous dynasties

Raven1207: he/they

13-12-2021 21:46:18 UTC

for

Brendan: he/him

14-12-2021 01:46:39 UTC

imperial EAV abstention.

lemon: she/her

15-12-2021 00:35:07 UTC

against we just have to make sure someone wins before january 1st, to stop brendan’s reign!

Raven1207: he/they

15-12-2021 03:32:59 UTC

for