I’d like a dollar or two in the “still a word” restrictions (they don’t need to be strongly protected, but the action is very powerful without them, so it should cost a little extra to open that particular floodgate). The ability to remove lots of letters at once is also somewhat powerful, and maybe should be limited to two or three letters at a time (but no dollars needed there – “two or more” could just be “two or three”).

There also seems to be a missing end-blockquote tag that’s causing this proposal to render incorrectly.

More generally, I’m wondering about how the precedence works here: we have precedence rules “can’t beat can” but “immutable beats mutable”, so when an immutable rule says the Triumphs can increase and a mutable rule says they can’t, which wins?

In general, though, I’m fine with this – the dynasty could do with the set of rule-editing powers becoming more powerful over time and this looks like a good basic idea for implementing that.

I added the dollar signs as recommended, and resolved the “Immutable beats Mutable” by simply requiring a Triumphs increase to have an equal decrease if that Participant has non-empty Heat so that there’s no conflict, just an additional modification.

Also changed it to “two or three”. That seems sensible and of course can be heisted later.

I think the “decrease by the same amount” unambiguously doesn’t work because mutable rules can’t decrease immutable variables. (It would be something of a problem if mutable rules could directly increase Triumphs, after all.)

I think the best fix is to put the Heat check into an immutable rule?

Ok, yeah, that makes sense. For some reason in my head, I didn’t want to put an Immutable rule as a subrule of a Mutable one, but there’s no reason not to that I can see. Fixed.

Based on the experiences from the Snail Racing dynasty, I didn’t want to add the concept of Heat to the existing “Teams and Targets”. It’s easier to manage if the same concept is mentioned in rules close to where they were first mentioned rather than spread out.

Almost looks good – “cannot have their Heat increased” isn’t quite right, though, it should be along the lines of “if their Heat would increase, it instead stays the same”. The current wording could be read as preventing the entire team from Triumphing, i.e. as “cannot perform actions that would increase Triumphs” rather than as “can perform actions that would increase Triumphs, but they don’t change”, and it’s probably best to be unambiguous about whether that works or not.

(I am planning to vote for this with either wording, though – it may not become a problem, and if it does it can be fixed later.)

A lot of power creep when we haven’t even really used the Roles yet, and there’s only been one successful heist.

Think I agree with Brendan on this one.

Seems very strong, maybe a bit too strong

CoV   That’s true.

I’d still like a way to modify multiple arbitrary characters at a time, at some appropriate cost, but I can accept that the cost might not have been high enough here.

Withdrawn.