Monday, September 27, 2021

Proposal: It hurts. (last one was a third so posting again)

Times out 0 vote to 5, with votes from Utina, Josh, Zack, Pokes and Supernova struck per Household Unit:

Failed by Kevan.

Adminned at 29 Sep 2021 08:36:07 UTC

Add a new rule, called “Hurt”. Place this rule in the ruleset so that it contains floor 56. If that is impossible, place this rule in the ruleset so that it contains floor 72. If that is also impossible, then something is broken. Place this rule wherever the enacting admin wants to. If that is also impossible, then idk anymore just stop
Its contents are as follows:

Add a new gamestate, called “hitpoints”. It can be a non-negative, integer (for example: 0, 3, 69). Every (unidle) player has this gamestate. It defaults to 100. It is publicly tracked.


lemon: she/her

27-09-2021 07:34:33 UTC

this is better than ur previous proposals, but still formatted very strangely!! try something like “Each Citizen has a number of ‘hitpoints’, which is a publicly tracked integer that defaults to 100.” instead of what u have here. the rules are statements of facts about the game, not instructions.

also things like “add a new gamestate” & “every (unidle) player” are unnecessary; the former is in very stiff language, & also the word ur looking for might be ‘variable’? and the latter is overclarified bc idle players don’t count as players for most rules anyway

Josh: he/they

27-09-2021 08:43:29 UTC

Mm, the pile of if statements is a bit of a mess as well.

More broadly, this poses a question of PvP in this dynasty, or at least PvE. Are we keen on taking this tower in a Nakatomi Plaza kind of direction?

lemon: she/her

27-09-2021 09:12:10 UTC

@josh it could also involve rogue drones hurting us, but yeah it seems v likely that we go in a pvp direction if we add hitpoints

lemon: she/her

27-09-2021 14:10:06 UTC

against for the reasons above

Josh: he/they

27-09-2021 14:18:29 UTC


Snisbo: she/they

27-09-2021 14:20:53 UTC


Snisbo: she/they

27-09-2021 14:22:36 UTC

Also, specifying that unidle citizens have the variable could end in a scam where going idle and coming back makes the variable cease to exist for a bit. Then, when you return, it resets because while idle, your hitpoints didn’t exist at all. I know there are rules in place to prevent it, but specifying unidle players makes it a bit iffier.

Brendan: he/him

27-09-2021 14:45:23 UTC


Kevan: he/him

27-09-2021 16:50:13 UTC

imperial This is an idiosyncratic wording and “place this rule wherever the enacting admin wants to” is a risky joke to make if it turns out that the preceding sentences don’t pan out, but I don’t think it would actually break anything to enact it.

[Supernova] I think it works as normal (with unidling players returning with “the last legally endowed values it had”). Since “Idle Citizens are not counted as Citizens” for the purposes of dynastic rules, saying “Citizens have hitpoints” is no different to “non-Idle Citizens have hotpoints” - when a player idled, both wordings would stop applying to them.

Chiiika: she/her

27-09-2021 17:21:34 UTC

against in current form, it can have a lot of improvement.

Chiiika: she/her

27-09-2021 17:37:20 UTC

Enacts a new rule, Hurt; and place it in the Ruleset so that it would precede Electricity.

“Each Citizen has a number of hitpoints, which is an integer defaulting to 100.”


Zack: he/him

28-09-2021 03:05:59 UTC


Raven1207: he/him

28-09-2021 04:58:41 UTC



28-09-2021 14:58:05 UTC


Snisbo: she/they

28-09-2021 18:25:00 UTC