Sunday, July 08, 2018

Proposal: Cooling Power

Self-killed. Failed by Kevan.

Adminned at 09 Jul 2018 11:03:10 UTC

For each Card with a Power of 3 or more, set that Card’s Power to 2.

Comments

Corona:

07-08-2018 19:16:55 UTC

You mean score? There is no such thing as power.

Anyways, I oppose this, as I think score should accurately reflect the value of a card. It can then be used to modulate the cost of card effects that e.g. allow the caster to choose a card to draw among several cards, by using the score as a factor of the cost.

If you feel that people have too much Thaum from scoring, better fixes would be:

•Reducing the amount of Thaum gained from discarding to score/2

or

•Making more actions that consume Thaum/increasing the cost of the current ones

derrick:

07-08-2018 20:00:00 UTC

I think it’s more about reducing variability in cards. Most cards are 1 or 2, while just a handful are worth more,  and 2’s are already valuable.

Kevan:

07-08-2018 20:07:04 UTC

That’s odd, I thought I had the rule open when I was writing this one. I meant Score, and it’s too late to change it now.

against as this has no effect.

Score reflecting a card’s value makes sense, but I doubt we’re going to measure that even as finely as “1-4”, in the amount of playing time we’ve got. “1” for regular cards and “2” for the more powerful ones felt like enough.

If we have a card that really feels four times as powerful as a typical 1-Score card, I’d venture that that’s just too powerful a card.

card:

07-09-2018 03:01:20 UTC

i felt that attached cards deserved more score because their effects are more permanent, i also had higher score for cards which did more versatile effects even if they weren’t as powerful.
since score was never defined as a measure of a card’s power i’m not sure why you choose to interpret it that way.

Kevan:

07-09-2018 07:54:22 UTC

Versatility is still a form of power. I think the power thing has been implicit since Thaum was enacted - if you’re given a choice between using a card or scoring it for points, then there’s an expectation (which I think has been mirrored in how people have been writing cards) that that decision should be as difficult as possible.

The fact that several of us have been instantly scoring 4-Score cards as soon as we draw them suggests that this isn’t a very interesting decision at the moment.

Corona:

07-09-2018 08:25:34 UTC

I would score them even if they had 2 Thaum, it’s just that it often happens that you’ve no use for a card. Most cards interact with a community’s ratings, but I first need to make some communities friendly to me for that to even matter!

Corona:

07-09-2018 08:38:56 UTC

I just looked at my hand. I got Grassfolk Acropolis (can be attached to Elitist Forrest if it already has a Grassfolk card), which illustrates another problem - some cards have really stringent requirements for playing them, and you don’t have the advantage of a self-constructed, cohesive deck (like in M:tG) in setting up these cards’ play conditions with your other cards.