Wednesday, April 02, 2025

Proposal: [Core] [Appendix] The Emperor’s New Style

Unpopular, 2-5. Failed by JonathanDark.

Adminned at 02 Apr 2025 18:30:04 UTC

In the core rule “Victory and Ascension”, change:

The Imperator’s Imperial Style, which if specified is a set of nonbinding guidelines that the Imperator is encouraged to follow, using the terms defined on the wiki page Imperial Styles.

to

The Imperator’s Imperial Style, which if specified is a set of nonbinding guidelines that the Imperator is encouraged to follow (possibly using terminology from the wiki page [[Imperial Styles]]).

(where the double square brackets represent a hyperlink to a wiki page).

In the definition of “Gamestate” in the subrule “Other” of the Appendix rule “Keywords”, change:

(except for the FAQ, the dynastic histories and discussion pages)

to

(except for the FAQ, the Imperial Styles page, the dynastic histories and discussion pages)

 

The limited set of Imperial Styles has been a problem for multiple Emperors recently – you might want a style that isn’t on the page, but the page is gamestate and so you can’t edit it. I can’t think of any exploits from editing the page, so this proposal makes the page in question non-gamestate, and also allows the specification of dynasty-specific styles that aren’t there and aren’t expected to be used in the future.

Comments

DoomedIdeas: he/him

02-04-2025 04:53:20 UTC

for

Kevan: he/him

02-04-2025 08:16:12 UTC

against An equivalent amendment was proposed a year ago and my view hasn’t really changed since then. The Imperial Style list being gamestate makes it completely clear who can edit it (anyone) and how (proposal), and whether the blog records that it has happened (yes). It’s part of the Nomic. Without that, we have an informal back-and-forth in the wiki history between whoever is bold enough to make changes, which may or may not escalate into a proposal to settle the question. There’ll probably also be some false sense that only Emperors and veteran players are “allowed” to make those edits.

If an Emperor wants a style that isn’t on the page they can still declare whatever they like as their Style in the Ascension Address and follow that (like Ais’s nuance and hybrids and Raven’s general thoughts on mechanics), later proposing to record a permanent, concise version of it if the group agree.

Josh: Imperator he/they

02-04-2025 08:34:52 UTC

against

Raven1207: he/they

02-04-2025 08:58:18 UTC

against

SingularByte: he/him

02-04-2025 11:13:47 UTC

against

JonathanDark: he/him

02-04-2025 15:37:29 UTC

against