Wednesday, January 20, 2010

Proposal: Crisis: “Lover of Truth” my foot.

Passes 20-2. -Ornithopter

Adminned at 21 Jan 2010 11:34:40 UTC

Set alethiophile’s status to Restrained

Comments

redtara: they/them

20-01-2010 02:13:50 UTC

against  against No.

TrumanCapote:

20-01-2010 02:17:51 UTC

for

There’s no justice like mob justice.

Klisz:

20-01-2010 02:27:52 UTC

against  against  against  He hasn’t done anything wrong.

Darknight: he/him

20-01-2010 02:33:22 UTC

for Hes the killer! Says so in the rules lol

Roujo: he/him

20-01-2010 02:33:34 UTC

Quote from Hix, from this post: http://blognomic.com/archive/the_fusebox_is_repaired/

“I was wondering if the Murderer would make this mistake!

Alethiophile moved to the basement to turn the lights on.  But only Servants, Detective, and Murderer can do that.  Alethiophile is the Attorney, NOT A SERVANT.  So he is the Detective or Murderer.

Probably, he sent in a Dark List to move to the Master Bedroom, attack Purplebeard, move to the Basement, turn the lights back on, and then move back to the Parlor.  But he didn’t realize that the last part of the Dark List wouldn’t be processed (anything after the lights come back on is not processed).”

redtara: they/them

20-01-2010 02:44:33 UTC

Oh yeah. for

Excalabur:

20-01-2010 02:46:07 UTC

imperial

tecslicer:

20-01-2010 02:54:03 UTC

or he is the detective… against

Roujo: he/him

20-01-2010 02:57:19 UTC

for
Either way, a good interrogatory would be on the safe side…
Sorry alethiophile! =P

Darknight: he/him

20-01-2010 02:58:23 UTC

Attack a named Guest (known as the Target) that they share a room with. Only the Murderer may take this Dark Action.

Klisz:

20-01-2010 03:03:36 UTC

The murderer could have separately attacked…

Darknight: he/him

20-01-2010 03:10:09 UTC

so.. how can the detective attack when the rule says that only the murderer can attack someone?

Klisz:

20-01-2010 03:12:44 UTC

The murderer could have SEPARATELY attacked…

alethiophile:

20-01-2010 03:16:51 UTC

I assume I am allowed to vote on this? :P
against

Roujo: he/him

20-01-2010 03:18:10 UTC

Yep, you can =P

spikebrennan:

20-01-2010 03:22:16 UTC

Hix knows perfectly well that this is silly and unwarranted.  I am sure that Aleth has a good explanation for why he moved without announcing it in a post, in the GNDT or, as far as I know, otherwise.

Roujo: he/him

20-01-2010 03:27:54 UTC

The question is that the ONLY way he might have moved is by being either the detective or the murderer. I strongly oppose any act of violence against him, but we have 1 chance out of 2 that he’s the culprit of the attack so I agree that we must at least restrain him until we decide what to do.

Roujo: he/him

20-01-2010 03:28:26 UTC

The fact is*
Sorry, my French is acting up =P

Qwazukee:

20-01-2010 04:48:26 UTC

for He is almost certainlt the Murderer.

Nausved:

20-01-2010 05:48:17 UTC

for

Rodlen:

20-01-2010 05:49:57 UTC

for

NoOneImportant:

20-01-2010 06:10:14 UTC

for

It sucks that its this early, but it’s necessary.

digibomber:

20-01-2010 06:32:04 UTC

for Ugh.. I don’t like this but.. alternative?

Kevan: he/him

20-01-2010 09:59:00 UTC

Absention to allow Crisis-speed resolution (a quorum of non-Dormant players is currently only 16): imperial

Purplebeard:

20-01-2010 10:37:18 UTC

for We know that he is either the Murderer or the Detective.

1. If he’s the Murderer and we restrain him, we won’t have to deal with any attacks the next time the lights go out (or at most one when the second Murderer is added).

2. If he’s the Detective, either:
a. The real Murderer attacks, and we’ll know alethiophile is the Detective. If he is, the Murderer must know this already, so this is a positive for us.
b. The real Murderer doesn’t attack, in the hopes we’ll assume 1. is true. We keep alethiophile restrained until he does and we’ve effectively neutralized the Murderer’s attacks.

It’s win-win.

Roujo: he/him

20-01-2010 11:57:48 UTC

Except for alethiophile =P

ais523:

20-01-2010 13:20:25 UTC

for Purplebeard, did you get a glimpse of who attacked you?

Hix:

20-01-2010 14:08:10 UTC

Explicit author for

These are not 50-50 odds we’re dealing with here.

We know for certain that the Murderer sent in a Dark List that was processed.  And only 2-3 other Guests performed useful moves before alethiophile flipped the switch.  The only way he is not the Murderer is if it just happens that the Murderer and the Detective were both among the first 4 Guests (out of a possible 33) to send in Dark Lists.

Klisz:

20-01-2010 15:45:23 UTC

CoV for  I understand Hix’s logic now.

Oze:

20-01-2010 15:54:40 UTC

for

Kneuronak:

20-01-2010 17:26:51 UTC

for

Uvthenfuv:

20-01-2010 17:46:32 UTC

for

Uvthenfuv:

20-01-2010 17:48:30 UTC

(Also, sorry for not repairing the fusebox, I was offline during the whole thing)

cloj63:

20-01-2010 22:03:55 UTC

for

Greytyphoon:

21-01-2010 01:10:16 UTC

for

Josh: he/they

21-01-2010 15:00:30 UTC

for

ais523:

21-01-2010 15:01:24 UTC

Given that Kevan isn’t a non-dormant player for the purpose of dynastic rules, does his vote count on this?

Kevan: he/him

21-01-2010 15:04:27 UTC

The rule is just that “a Dormant Guest may not propose a Crisis or vote on one”; Dormant Guests are excluded, rather than non-Dormant Guests included. My vote counts.

(Although thinking about it, we could probably do with rewording that to say that a Dormant Guest’s vote doesn’t count, not that it can’t be made - if someone votes on a Crisis and then gets knocked unconscious, their vote shouldn’t count any more.)

Ornithopter:

21-01-2010 18:20:56 UTC

for