Sunday, October 11, 2015

Proposal: Curia and Curiouser

Timed out 3 votes to 2. Enacted by Kevan.

Adminned at 13 Oct 2015 11:18:02 UTC

In the rule “Curia”, replace “Any Cardinal may Bid on the Appointment” with:

Any Cardinal may Bid on the Appointment if they have not already done so for that Appointment

Reproposing Ayesdeeef’s Bid limit without the puzzling Influence reset clause.

Comments

ayesdeeef:

10-11-2015 15:01:25 UTC

against Without a Bid reset, this would allow each player to remove as much of their influence as they like before the Proposal enacts, which is particularly beneficial for Kevan.

Brendan:

10-11-2015 16:15:47 UTC

Before which proposal enacts, ayesdeeef?

ayesdeeef:

10-11-2015 16:33:04 UTC

This Proposal preventing multiple Bids.

ayesdeeef:

10-11-2015 16:34:08 UTC

Because there is currently an active Dean appointment and no limits on Bidding.

Kevan:

10-11-2015 17:11:01 UTC

There are several other easy ways to dump unwanted Influence, such as switching Loyalty and buying Benefices.

Kevan:

10-11-2015 17:12:41 UTC

Apart from the general rule that it’s bad to be an outlier in Nomic, I’m not sure where you’ve gotten the idea that a high Influence is a bad thing. (Being a Papabile has no defined effect.)

ayesdeeef:

10-11-2015 18:47:45 UTC

Those other “easy” ways are at least not entirely limitless in the way that Bids are.

Being a Papabile prevents you from choosing Superbia under the Ruleset and prevents you from choosing Luxuria under Thrawn’s proposed Family Ties. Given that so far, being a Papabile is trending towards being a bad thing, it is fair to assume that it will only get worse as the Dynasty progresses.

Elias IX:

10-12-2015 01:16:01 UTC

for

Purplebeard:

10-12-2015 08:15:53 UTC

for

delcooper11:

10-12-2015 21:18:09 UTC

against  I think the point of bidding is that you can attempt to outbid your opponents. If a Cardinal is willing to spend all of his influence electing a certain person to an office, he should do so.

Kevan:

10-13-2015 08:30:58 UTC

Hmm, I did wonder if that’s why they were called “Bids”, but the fact they had to be made as a sequence of separate comments made it seem unintentional.