Thursday, April 01, 2021

Proposal: Devil details

Timed Out. Fails 2-4—Clucky

Adminned at 03 Apr 2021 03:49:53 UTC

Replace “Devil: the Heft of all Cards in the opponent’s Pocket are reduced by 5 (to a minimum of zero each)” with

Devil: the Heft of all Cards in the opponent’s Pocket are reduced by 2 (to a minimum of -1 each).


Clucky: HE/HIM

01-04-2021 01:27:19 UTC

hrm… does the “min of -1” make devil stronger or weaker? It does mean you can Verme the devil. But overall I think this makes the devil a bit too weak.

For the purposes of Arias, this is like playing a six. So its not very good at blocking Arias, it doesn’t help blocking Vermes, and while it possibly disrupts Toros and -2 its still very possible to still complete a Toro. As such, while I agree the current devil probably needs to be fixed this might be too weak?


01-04-2021 01:39:05 UTC

isn’t devil weak enough already


01-04-2021 01:41:04 UTC

Well, the only realistic way to Verme the Devil here is to have three Arcana, the -1 is just a little flavor.

This Devil is less Luciferian and more like getting hassled by an Imp. It’s possible to complete a Toro. But there’s a good chance it’ll wreck someone’s plans and make them mad. Also, even if it’s significantly weaker it’s still, at worst, easily better than the Universos and I’d want it over Lightning, maybe even over World.


01-04-2021 01:46:58 UTC

@Jumble is it? Devil’s top-tier Arcana I think. Puts an easy stop to any Toros and Arias.

Clucky: HE/HIM

01-04-2021 01:51:31 UTC

Aces can also Verme the Devil now.

lemonfanta: SHE/HER

01-04-2021 05:16:00 UTC

tentatively for


01-04-2021 09:11:22 UTC

against Hefts can’t go negative, as currently written. (“If a set of valid values is not specified in their definition, game variables defined to hold numeric values can hold only non-negative integers.”)

Josh: HE/HIM

01-04-2021 10:35:56 UTC



01-04-2021 12:14:45 UTC


Darknight: HE/HIM

02-04-2021 13:38:09 UTC