Sunday, March 06, 2022

Proposal: Dharma Police

Times out 6-2-2. Enacted by Brendan.

Adminned at 08 Mar 2022 20:33:37 UTC

Enact a new rule, “Dharma”:-

Each Maestro Team Member has a Dharma, which is a publicly-tracked text string. It is not flavour text.

At any time, a Maestro Team Member may change their Dharma to any Pure sentence from the dynastic history page of the Parallel Dynasty which is their Focus.

To “Parallel BlogNomic”, add:-

If a sentence of text in the gamestate was generated by the Paralleliser, and does not include any of the words that were present in the starting text used to generate it, then that text is considered Pure. (Flavour text may be considered to be English text with no meaning in game terms, for the purposes of checking whether it contains Pure sentences.)

Considering the GPT-text-as-meaningful angle, by allowing players to pick out a single purely GPT-generated sentence and unflavour it, and explicitly avoiding anything which includes directly player-injected terms. (Requiring a selection also avoids the possibility that the GPT will declare something momentous that nobody wants it to say, or which nobody actually notices until weeks later.)

Comments

SingularByte: he/him

06-03-2022 17:02:06 UTC

I’ve got a couple of questions about this. First, does this mean the word “to” virtually always renders a sentence impure, since it’s used in generating all dynastic histories?
Secondly, what counts as a sentence here? Can you take a one word theme as your sentence, for example?

Lulu: she/her

06-03-2022 19:20:38 UTC

against feels both too limiting and yet not limiting enough

SingularByte: he/him

06-03-2022 19:22:48 UTC

for I think this could end up going somewhere interesting, even with my prior questions.

Josh: Observer he/they

06-03-2022 19:29:29 UTC

imperial It feels like this just doesn’t do anything as written. A “sentence” means a complete body of meaning, with a subject and a predicate, so that eliminates all list items. The only thing that at the moment that generates actual sentences are ascensions, and as SB says, the odds of those being “pure” with no ands, buts, tos or is seems remote.

Kevan: he/him

06-03-2022 19:52:33 UTC

Yes, ascension texts are all that this would find for now. SingularByte’s point about “to” is referring to the “Welcome to X” seed, though, I think: there are some Pure sentences in the currently researched dynasties.

Brendan: he/him

06-03-2022 22:23:44 UTC

for

TyGuy6:

06-03-2022 23:46:37 UTC

for

MadisonSilver:

07-03-2022 03:24:36 UTC

imperial

SingularByte: he/him

07-03-2022 06:51:03 UTC

I’ve just spotted another rules quirk to be aware of. Technically, you could argue that the dynasty history isn’t valid as a source of pure sentences.
The rule Parallel Blognomic states “The Paralleliser [...] can be found here: [link]” and “Some actions might instruct you to generate something by Using the Paralleliser”
The rule Parallel Dynastic Histories states “Use [link] with the same settings when using the Paralleliser and with starting text [...]”

To me this is hinting that the link in the latter isn’t the Paralleliser itself, i.e. it’s saying to use the same settings as you would when using the Paralleliser rather than explicitly saying to use the Paralleliser itself; it just happens to share the same link and work the same in every way as the Paralleliser.

The only other interpretation is that the latter is telling you to use the same settings every time when performing the action of “Using the Paralleliser” with starting text, which is completely redundant but that parsing does allow you to argue that the link still counts as the Paralleliser even when not explicitly named as such.

Roujo: he/him

07-03-2022 18:26:57 UTC

imperial

Clucky: he/him

07-03-2022 19:52:13 UTC

against

GloopyGhost:

07-03-2022 21:16:34 UTC

for