Tuesday, July 18, 2023

Proposal: Disorderly Conduct

Withdrawn. Failed by Kevan.

Adminned at 19 Jul 2023 10:55:22 UTC

In the subrule “Damage and Repair”, add the following text after the sentence that ends with “and add the details to a new Repair Log entry.”

They must also increase Order by 1.

and add the following text after the sentence that ends with “and they gain a component of that chosen type.”

They must also decrease Order by 1.

In the subrule “Flea Market”, add the following bullet to the list describing the Trade action:

* Decrease Order by the number of baubles paid and received combined in that Trade action.

In the rule “Order”, add the following text:

Any Machinist who, when they perform an action that reduces Order, causes Order to go from greater than one of the following threshold values to less than or equal to that threshold value, must put their name into the Lockdown list with the number of Days specified for that threshold value
* 40 Order - 1 Day
* 25 Order - 2 Days
* 10 Order - 4 Days

Inspired by the “Inspire the People” proposal, any action that “is a Crime” should generally decrease order, and any action that reverses the effects of those Crimes increases order. If a Machinist crosses a threshold when lowering Order, that puts them in Lockdown, with the penalty in Days increasing as Order goes towards 0.

The trade instance is the only outlier, as I don’t really know what the opposite of a Flea Market trade would be, if trading is a Crime.

Comments

lendunistus: he/him

18-07-2023 13:08:26 UTC

flea market trading shouldn’t decrease order from a flavor standpoint imo, plus I feel like that has the potential to decrease order by a lot

but for for now

SingularByte: he/him

18-07-2023 13:16:04 UTC

Just to confirm, does this mean that one person could take order from 24 to 11, but the person who pushes it over the edge with a single point of order loss is the one who takes the punishment for it?

lemon: she/her

18-07-2023 13:33:29 UTC

against per the above two points (Flea Market trades shouldn’t be a crime anyway imo) and also because this is a rules-expanding proposal when we really just need a couple more keyterms so we can start the dynasty off proper!

JonathanDark: he/him

18-07-2023 13:55:09 UTC

Confirmed that the punishment goes to the person who decreased Order by one point and hit the threshold, rather than the person that decreased Order by 13 points to get close to the threshold. It was intentional to represent the inherit injustice in punishing crime in the underground when there’s no complex judicial system.

It’s understandable that this may not be to anyone’s liking.

Kevan: City he/him

18-07-2023 18:47:15 UTC

Feels a bit redundant to the idea that Crimes (which reduce Order here) can put you into Lockdown anyway. I also don’t really want to be the person who arrives last at the Flea Market, after faster shoppers have got what they wanted and left Order exactly one point above a boundary.

against

lendunistus: he/him

18-07-2023 19:30:43 UTC

against actually

Josh: he/they

18-07-2023 20:42:18 UTC

against

JonathanDark: he/him

18-07-2023 21:21:59 UTC

against Withdrawn