Friday, October 28, 2011

Proposal: Drafts

Dead Body Collection Service ON BEHALF OF southpointingchariot.

Adminned at 28 Oct 2011 16:03:05 UTC

Create a new core rule “Drafts,” with the text:

Any Player may post an entry in the “Draft” category. The Body and Flavour Text of a Draft may be edited by its author at their convenience. Players may not edit the Title, Category, or any other aspect of their Draft not specificied as editable in the Ruleset.


In Rule 1.9, change

A Player should not edit their own blog comments once posted, nor those of any other Player

.to

A Player should not edit their own blog comments once posted, nor those of any other Player, unless otherwise specified in the Ruleset.


Change, in Rule 3.2

No entry may be more than one of the following official types of post: Proposal, Call for Judgement, Declaration of Victory, and Idling Post

to

No entry may be more than one of the following official types of post: Proposal, Call for Judgement, Declaration of Victory, Idling Post, and Draft

Currently, under Rule 1.9, editing entries after posting is a violation of fair play. As a result, players often post drafts of potential proposals in order to get input from other players. However, when issues are found, drafts currently must be reposted each time changes are made. Past attempts to fix this problem have focused on allowing the text of Proposals to be edited, which introduces legal and practical difficulties. This proposal would create a Category of entries known as “Drafts” which could be edited freely by the author.

Comments

scshunt:

10-28-2011 00:44:30 UTC

against Only editing comments is a violation of fair play.

southpointingchariot:

10-28-2011 01:11:30 UTC

@coppro so could I then make a proposal, wait til it reaches quorum, then edit it to make me dictator and have an admin enact it?

omd:

10-28-2011 01:20:40 UTC

Why not?

Anyway, against because drafts should be editable into proposals.

arthexis:

10-28-2011 01:26:23 UTC

for I think this is a step in the right direction.

Amnistar:

10-28-2011 01:37:38 UTC

“The Ruleset and Gamestate can only be altered in manners specified by the Ruleset.”

Proposals are part of the gamestate.  You can’t edit proposals.

Amnistar:

10-28-2011 01:38:13 UTC

However, if it is not part of the gamestate you can edit it all you want.

against

scshunt:

10-28-2011 01:49:59 UTC

south: You can’t edit Official Posts. You can edit other posts.

southpointingchariot:

10-28-2011 02:21:21 UTC

@comex I think that would be a good thing in the long one, but i think gradual change is the right way to go here. I would suggest voting for this and moving forward from there.

omd:

10-28-2011 03:29:33 UTC

Oh, I temporarily missed the clause about not editing official posts, because it’s in a completely different rule than the clause about comments…

Then my earlier objection that unofficial posts are sufficient for this stands.

Bucky:

10-28-2011 06:00:16 UTC

imperial

Josh:

10-28-2011 06:08:18 UTC

against

zuff:

10-28-2011 07:58:25 UTC

comex: How does one make an unofficial post? IIRC every post is actually official.

zuff:

10-28-2011 07:59:05 UTC

For instance the original mistaken post of Consensus Gamestate was in no category and ended up as a Work of Art. That’s not very good for drafts. for

Kevan:

10-28-2011 08:53:44 UTC

against It’s already legal to announce that a non-official post is a “draft” and edit it at will - Rule 1.9 is talking about “blog comments”, not “blog posts”.

ChronosPhaenon:

10-28-2011 10:53:04 UTC

against

Shadowclaw:

10-28-2011 11:49:41 UTC

against

Prince Anduril:

10-28-2011 11:59:31 UTC

against

Ely:

10-28-2011 14:52:31 UTC

against

Spitemaster:

10-28-2011 15:53:16 UTC

for

SingularByte:

10-28-2011 16:43:59 UTC

against

flurie:

10-28-2011 17:39:31 UTC

against

Pavitra:

10-28-2011 17:45:52 UTC

for per zuff. Although Kevan is right in theory, it’s more difficult than it looks to create a non-official post.

Ornithopter:

10-28-2011 18:43:41 UTC

against

Winner:

10-28-2011 19:36:58 UTC

against

southpointingchariot:

10-28-2011 22:59:39 UTC

sk if this already legal, then its fine with me.

southpointingchariot:

10-28-2011 23:00:36 UTC

against