Wednesday, January 05, 2011

Call for Judgment: Drive-by Coronation

Reaches quorum and passes, 8-1. Josh

Adminned at 09 Jan 2011 06:02:03 UTC

According to the ruleset, after a DoV has passed, the winner may pass on the role of Brick Master to another Mini Figure. However, they are not obliged to communicate this to anyone. If the winner of a dynasty silently passes the mantle to another player, any Ascension Address they might post afterwards is meaningless, and hiatus continues until that other player posts one (and all DoVs posted by others in the meantime are illegal). We have no way of knowing whether or not this has happened in the past.

So, er, we might be in hiatus right now. In fact, it’s entirely possible that we’ve been in hiatus for over 2 years, unless a CfJ explicitly ended hiatus at some point in between, rendering just about every action we performed in that period illegal.

To fix this, do the following:

In the following paragraph, “Mini Figure” refers to the term used in the Ruleset to indicate a human player of BlogNomic, and “Brick Master” refers to the term used in the Ruleset to indicate the human who heads a Dynasty (because we can’t know for sure what the platonic Ruleset calls them).

If any Mini Figure ever invoked the rule ‘Victory and Ascension’ to pass the role of Brick Master to another Mini Figure without stating their intention to perform this action, or the identity of the new Brick Master, in a post or comment, revert that action, and treat every action performed since as if the former never occurred. Just in case that didn’t fix things, if we are in a hiatus, end it. The Mini Figure named Josh becomes the Brick Master, if they weren’t already.

Then, In “Victory and Ascension”, change the paragraph beginning with “When a DoV is enacted” to the following:

When a DoV is enacted, all other active DoVs are failed, and a new Dynasty begins with the Mini Figure who made the DoV as its Brick Master. That Mini Figure may pass this role to another Mini Figure at this point by making a post to that effect, if they wish. The Hiatus continues until the new Brick Master makes an Ascension Address by posting an entry in the “Ascension Address” category - this should specify the Brick Master’s chosen theme for the new Dynasty, and may optionally specify that the terms Mini Figure and Brick Master will be replaced with theme-specific terms throughout the entire ruleset, and/or a number of dynastic rules to keep. Upon posting such an Ascension Address, the ruleset is updated to reflect any changed terms, and any dynastic rules which were not listed to be kept are repealed.

Actual changes (because this probably never occurred, and if it did it’s nearly impossible to prove): passing the mantle now requires a post or comment, and AA’s need to be posted in the correct category to count (because otherwise any post could qualify as an Ascension Address, since its description only defines what it should look like).



05-01-2011 14:36:06 UTC


Josh: he/they

05-01-2011 14:41:25 UTC



05-01-2011 15:03:45 UTC


Roujo: he/him

05-01-2011 15:04:57 UTC

FOR =)


05-01-2011 16:14:55 UTC

against  due to being a legislative CfJ.

Josh: he/they

05-01-2011 16:16:17 UTC

@Bucky - it needs to be, or two people could just exploit the scam, claiming the the baton was secretly passed in a time gone by, and veto the prop.


05-01-2011 16:26:48 UTC

The second-to-last paragraph should take care of that case.

Josh: he/they

05-01-2011 16:27:54 UTC

Yes, but the proposal would have to pass first. If the scam is triggered then the proposal gets vetoed.


05-01-2011 17:04:03 UTC

Declared invalid, rather, but yes, that is exactly why I made this a CfJ.


05-01-2011 20:51:51 UTC



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05-01-2011 20:53:23 UTC

Can someone delete my last comment, sorry…


05-01-2011 21:13:28 UTC

Deleting comments is illegal (if it wasn’t, I could just make a proposal saying “If this proposal passes, Darth Cliche achieves victory” and then delete all against votes). Double posts aren’t a big deal, since they’re easy to spot by manually-counting admins and are just ignored by the automatic vote counters.

Clucky: he/him

05-01-2011 21:21:11 UTC


Darknight: he/him

05-01-2011 22:09:13 UTC



06-01-2011 14:37:23 UTC

It makes sense for this to be a CFJ (uncertainty, if only a slight one, about the existence of a Hiaturs); and although I’m idle, I’m fine with it. Also, I remember uncertainty about how to pass the mantle coming up in the past; I think I advised players to just make a blog post, because the mechanism wasn’t stated. BlogNomic seems to have a dangerous “if the rules don’t say, anyone can pick an arbitrary meaning” mentality recently, though, so I suppose this is required.


07-01-2011 19:25:45 UTC

Idle for.


09-01-2011 07:00:27 UTC