Sunday, June 20, 2021

Proposal: Eject Button [Appendix]

Self-killed. Josh

Adminned at 22 Jun 2021 09:31:07 UTC

In the rule “Atomic Actions”, add the following after the bullet beginning with “If a Vampire Lord arrives at a step in an Atomic Action and they cannot perform that step”:

* If at any point before the completion of the Atomic Action a Vampire Lord no longer wishes to complete that Action, they may undo all the steps they have performed of that Action and are considered never to have performed that Action.

there was some talk a lil bit ago about someone being obligated to complete an atomic action started by mistake or misunderstanding, so maybe we ought to fix that

Comments

Josh: he/him

20-06-2021 11:12:31 UTC

against That would mean that you could get halfway through an atomic, decide it wasn’t going the way you wanted, and nope out? I dunno, that seems like it could be really bad in dynasties where atomics are used in a competitive setting

lemonfanta: Ashen Queen she/her

20-06-2021 11:17:39 UTC

if i could edit maybe i could add some qualifiers, but if u think it’s that utterly unsalvageable an idea, against

Josh: he/him

20-06-2021 11:19:47 UTC

I do, sorry - I considered not voting but I think the principle that an action, once started, has to be completed is kinda hard-baked into not just this game but probably most games?

Actually this might have been a low-etiquette vote, in which case sorry. I probably could have let discussion happen a bit.

lemonfanta: Ashen Queen she/her

20-06-2021 11:24:45 UTC

this was specifically sposed to be about something like what we had the other day when someone payed too little for a sigil, so their sigil was reverted, but the full cost would have dusted them, i believe? idk if anything actually came of that conversation tho

it was an underthought proposal, i had the idea that i could just post it and come back and edit in some “before you’ve applied any legal effects / rolled any dice” clauses in a couple hours but i spose that was shortsighted n i shouldve just waited to propose until i was feeling more up for the task of writing in qualifiers

Josh: he/him

20-06-2021 13:08:47 UTC

I think I’d go the other way on the issue - maybe enshrine in the rules that attempting to take an action commits you, even if you do it wrong - it lends itself to deliberate, tactical self-sabotage less

ais523:

20-06-2021 14:51:55 UTC

against This doesn’t interact properly with random choices made during atomic actions; you can get a bad dice roll, then decide to cancel rather than continuing (and start a new action later hoping for a better roll).

Kevan: he/him

20-06-2021 15:33:44 UTC

against

Raven1207: he/him

20-06-2021 18:11:53 UTC

against

Josh: he/him

20-06-2021 18:34:27 UTC

It’s self-killed folks, no need for further againsts

Jason: he/him

21-06-2021 04:04:41 UTC

against