Saturday, July 06, 2019

Proposal: ending purgatory [Special Case]

Reached quorum 7 votes to 0. Enacted by Kevan.

Adminned at 07 Jul 2019 18:51:41 UTC

Add a fourth paragraph in Atomic Actions

If a Wizard arrives at a step in an Atomic Action and they cannot perform that step, they undo all the steps that they performed of that action and are never considered to have performed that action.

Comments

Cuddlebeam:

07-06-2019 07:48:41 UTC

Must =/= Can.

Kevan:

07-06-2019 07:52:14 UTC

*cough* No possible legal dynastic action.

card:

07-06-2019 07:57:06 UTC

I think I addressed both of those concerns now?

Kevan:

07-06-2019 08:00:48 UTC

Hmm, why “there is no possible legal dynastic action for them to take” instead of “they cannot complete that step”, actually? The atomic action rule already says that they “may not take any other dynastic action”, so the only one it’s possibe for them to take is the current step.

card:

07-06-2019 08:07:43 UTC

i don’t think that there’s a functional difference to those words. i guess your version looks nicer in context

Farsight:

07-06-2019 08:13:04 UTC

imperial

Cuddlebeam:

07-06-2019 08:20:13 UTC

for

Kevan:

07-06-2019 08:52:44 UTC

for

derrick:

07-06-2019 12:51:44 UTC

for

Kaia:

07-06-2019 17:28:18 UTC

for

TyGuy6:

07-06-2019 18:25:19 UTC

I am a bit concerned about irreversiblity of earlier actions, but I don’t see a clear example of that yet.
for

Kaia:

07-06-2019 20:15:15 UTC

Should undoing the actions in reverse sequential order also be an atomic action or a continuation of the atomic action? Otherwise i could see like “do part of an atomic action, get stuck, do another action, undo atomic action” be argued?

TyGuy6:

07-07-2019 06:16:55 UTC

[Kaia]Very close to a problem. I’d argue that the undoing is forced with the proposal’s wording, so they don’t have time to do anything else between bound and free statuses. Gets weird if we make AAs with early actions being conplex in any way, though.

Kevan:

07-07-2019 16:38:43 UTC

I’d say they were still performing the action right up until point where they were no longer considered to have performed it, so there’s no room for another action.