Friday, June 18, 2021

Call for Judgment: Entering at E4

Fewer than a quorum not voting against. Failed 0 votes to 6 by Kevan.

Adminned at 18 Jun 2021 09:11:38 UTC

Uphold all attempts to Inhabit a Room this dynasty prior to 01:16 UTC, 18 June 2021.

In the paragraph in “Lair Actions” that starts “Inhabiting a Room”, change “reachable from room E4” to “reachable from the room located at E4”.

I believe the only sensible interpretation of “Room E4” in the ruleset is “the room located at E4”, rather than “the room labelled E4”. If you agree with me, the Sepulchre creation that’s been going on this dynasty was legal; voting for this CFJ effectively enforces this interpretation (it’s an effective no-op if you agree with me about what the gamestate is).

Clucky disagrees; under his interpretation, all attempts to create Sepulchres this dynasty have been illegal (because there is no room labelled E4). So we need a CFJ to resolve the dispute.

Comments

Clucky: he/him

18-06-2021 01:30:50 UTC

against safe guard against Sepulchres created for other reasons

ais523:

18-06-2021 01:37:04 UTC

I don’t understand what you mean? I intentionally specified a time in the past in order to prevent anyone exploiting this CFJ to create a Sepulchre illegally.

I believe the three attempts to create Sepulchres were all legal, and your reversion of them was wrong; but I’m CFJing about it rather than getting into an edit war, as the ruleset suggests.

lemon: she/her

18-06-2021 01:37:20 UTC

for the rules issue never actually existed but this change will prevent shenanigans where somebody makes a room that *is* labeled E4– tho maybe we should just patch in a “you can’t name rooms after grid coords” clause :o

Clucky: he/him

18-06-2021 01:43:24 UTC

they were only legal because the rules state “Rooms can also be referred to using their grid reference.”

you’re both trying to uphold all attempts to Inhabit a Room, which someone could discover were illegal for other reasons, as well as send the message “The rules as written don’t actually matter”

ais523:

18-06-2021 01:49:19 UTC

against s/k I missed that Clucky had a failed attempt to create a Sepulchre on 15 June 2021, which this CFJ would also uphold. I thought there were no other failed attempts (and added “this dynasty” as a safeguard), but should have listed them explicitly in order to make sure (rather than relying on my belief that all the attempts were legal).

ais523:

18-06-2021 01:49:58 UTC

(note: an s/k on a CFJ doesn’t actually cause it to fail)

lemon: she/her

18-06-2021 01:53:52 UTC

! well shucks, CoV to against

Clucky: he/him

18-06-2021 01:55:12 UTC

oh wow yeah good catch that would’ve caused quite the mess I *think* it would technically dust me (as I lose 3 Puissance, and so would’ve gone to zero setting up Room BA and then not even been able to fill out the treasure chest there)

Clucky: he/him

18-06-2021 01:56:42 UTC

now Brendan can rally people to vote for this as another way to protect his Sepulchre =D

Janet: she/her

18-06-2021 02:08:24 UTC

against

Kevan: he/him

18-06-2021 06:30:41 UTC

against

Josh: Observer he/they

18-06-2021 08:40:30 UTC

against