Friday, March 27, 2020

Proposal: Estate Can Mean Two Things

Timed out 3 votes to 4. Failed by Kevan.

Adminned at 29 Mar 2020 10:22:00 UTC

Add a new rule entitled “Inheritance” as follows:

Each Nobleman has an Heir, which is either No Heir or the name of another Nobleman; this is tracked on the Noblemen wiki page. A Nobleman may update their own Heir at any time.

If a Nobleman becomes idle, Louis XIV may assign all Items in their Estate to the Estate of their Heir, if their Heir is the not No Heir and is the name of a non-Idle Nobleman. Otherwise, Louis XIV may make a new Auction Post, listing the Items that were the former contents of the Estate of the idle Nobleman in question, instead of choosing them randomly as normal.


pencilgame: HE/HIM

03-27-2020 03:33:52 UTC

What if a noble man comes back from the dead? Is the heir obligated to give the stuff back to the un-idled player?

Kevan: HE/HIM

03-27-2020 10:53:36 UTC


Josh: HE/HIM

03-27-2020 11:11:02 UTC

Is this a pooling mechanic?

I dunno, it like a step back: a lot of the action in this dynasty has been about disincetivising Noblemen from blasting themselves into debt holes, and this re-opens runaway inflation as a mechanic, just at the expense of opening up player elimination (also not a mechanic I particularly enjoy). I do acknowledge that those Noblemen who started occupying debt holes early on, before the dynasty have formed, have yet to be offered a compelling way back into the dynasty, so selling participation rights for victory % might be the only way to keep them involved in the game in any tangible way, but my mild preference is to keep working at making a game that doesn’t exclude people. So it’s a weak against from me.

pencilgame: HE/HIM

03-27-2020 14:30:45 UTC

Our fair king hath spoken!

Brendan: HE/HIM

03-27-2020 14:34:34 UTC

[pencilgame] I think not doing so would be a fun way of generating umbrage. But as far as I remember, there currently IS no mechanic for donating items to another Nobleman.

[Josh] It’s entirely at your discretion whether this is a pooling mechanic or not—any inheritance has to be an action explicitly performed by Louis XIV.

pencilgame: HE/HIM

03-27-2020 14:39:13 UTC

I also suspected this of pooling. But why exactly would a person pool? It benefits the heir, not the idler.

Kevan: HE/HIM

03-27-2020 18:41:04 UTC

If we had a victory condition of “first to get ten Items wins”, two players with five items each could agree to toss a coin: the loser idling and passing their items to the other, who wins the dynasty. (They’d only rationally do this if they felt they had less than 50% chance of winning otherwise, but that could easily happen if a third player was about to win anyway.)

pencilgame: HE/HIM

03-27-2020 19:50:48 UTC

Yes, I just got done reading all of the essays in the wiki and see now that I didn’t think it all the way through.


03-27-2020 22:41:33 UTC

against Agreed with Josh.

Darknight: HE/HIM

03-28-2020 13:36:31 UTC



03-28-2020 14:14:38 UTC

The pooling part of the mechanic is entirely optional on Louis XIV’s part. If he doesn’t want to do that, then they’ll be put up for auction. I, personally, find more items = more auctions = better game, so for