Sunday, November 14, 2010

Proposal: even stopped clocks

Self-Killed. -Purplebeard

Adminned at 16 Nov 2010 00:29:58 UTC

In rule 2.5, Lessons:

Replace the text

If a Student is Free and has not yet posted a comment in a particular Open Lesson

With

If a Student is Free and has not yet posted a comment describing a valid Class Action in a particular Open Lesson

And replace the text

If a Lesson post is more than 24 hours old, the Headmaster may leave a comment on that post announcing that the Lesson has ended. When a Lesson ends, the Headmaster shall

With

If a Lesson Post is more than 24 hours old, the Lesson is Ended. When a Lesson ends, the Headmaster shall, as soon as is feasible,

 

 

Comments

macgeorge:

14-11-2010 22:39:39 UTC

for

Blacky:

14-11-2010 22:51:36 UTC

for

Roujo: he/him

14-11-2010 23:07:21 UTC

for  for  for Good ideas. =)

Kevan: he/him

14-11-2010 23:15:52 UTC

against The first bit would allow students to make fake non-Action comments, which might get confusing. (And I quite like the way that first-comment-as-action discourages idle chit-chat from students who haven’t taken an action yet.)

Not sure about the second bit. It’s good for not requiring close attention from the Head, but gives a strong incentive to leave your Class Action until the very end of class, which you know the exact time of.

Klisz:

14-11-2010 23:40:56 UTC

imperial

William:

14-11-2010 23:47:09 UTC

@Kevan: I already find the fact that there’s no syntax for what constitutes a Class Action to be fairly confusing. The fix was to stop students who accidentally post what they believe to be valid class actions (when the student is actually not Free) to be unable to participate in the lesson once they become Free.

The second was to prevent the Head from essentially holding students’ class actions hostage by refusing/forgetting to end a class. In my mind, the benefit of waiting until the very end of the lesson to perform an action has been negated by Disruption only targeting the three most recently commenting students.

I felt that in the current version of Lessons there was a reasonable expectation that the Headmaster would close an open Lesson after ~24 hours have elapsed. The last two classes that have run have both been left open for approximately twice that time (at the time I’m writing this comment, Divination is still open).

If anything, this proposal isn’t intended to make less work for the Headmaster; it’s to make it so that students don’t have to check that their previous class has actually ended before they make an action in their next class.

Roujo: he/him

15-11-2010 00:00:10 UTC

I support. Divination has been open for almost two days now, which is a bit over the time limit. Sure, it says the Headmaster may close the class, but I’m at the point where I almost want to wait for lessons to open up before picking one - knowing that I might be stuck in it for a couple of days.

My vote stands: FOR, although I agree that fixing the form of Class Action (if only that you must say that you are STUDYING or DISRUPTING in all-caps in your comment, leaving the rest open for flavor) is a good idea.

Darknight: he/him

15-11-2010 01:18:42 UTC

imperial

FuzzyLogic:

15-11-2010 01:21:50 UTC

for

Ambisinister:

15-11-2010 06:50:03 UTC

imperial

Josh: Mastermind he/they

15-11-2010 07:03:33 UTC

against Per Kevan’s second point.

Purplebeard:

15-11-2010 08:42:45 UTC

against

Blacky:

15-11-2010 12:01:12 UTC

against CoV per Kevan and the new proposal

Greytyphoon:

15-11-2010 13:18:13 UTC

against

Alecto:

15-11-2010 13:21:25 UTC

against

William:

16-11-2010 03:40:09 UTC

I feel like the class has spoken here.  against