Tuesday, March 16, 2021

Call for Judgment: 🙄

Reached quorum 6 votes to 2. Enacted by Kevan.

Adminned at 17 Mar 2021 08:45:42 UTC

Enact a rule entitled “Victory” as follows:

No Players have achieved victory during the Twenty-Eighth Dynasty of Kevan, unless they have done so under a condition outlined in this rule.

Comments

Clucky: he/him

16-03-2021 23:10:58 UTC

why does this need to be a CfJ?

either we shoot down Bucky’s attempt for being invalid, in which case no one else should try the same scam, or it passes in which case we also don’t need to worry about it anymore

Josh: Observer he/they

16-03-2021 23:13:08 UTC

against

Similarly to Bucky’s proposal, it doesn’t really fix the current issue and also doesn’t fix the systemic problem that caused it.

Brendan: he/him

16-03-2021 23:18:36 UTC

From my perspective the issue is unique to this dynasty. Bucky’s stated rationale is that if Victory and Ascension hadn’t been nullified/replicated as a dynastic rule, this would be a core scam, which is already covered. But it was, so it’s not. That makes the issue specific rather than systemic, and this rule makes it explicit rather than presumptive that nobody else can try the same thing.

Kevan: he/him

16-03-2021 23:20:13 UTC

for

Lulu: she/her

16-03-2021 23:21:04 UTC

But then why not only make changes to gamestate saying that the collective victory is no longer valid?

Brendan: he/him

16-03-2021 23:32:28 UTC

The ruleset is where gamestate gets defined.

Lulu: she/her

16-03-2021 23:56:41 UTC

for I mean, it still solves the problem.

Bucky:

16-03-2021 23:57:55 UTC

for  but we should repeal it by proposal ASAP

Zack: he/him

17-03-2021 00:17:27 UTC

for

Clucky: he/him

17-03-2021 01:01:49 UTC

but by voting down Bucky’s DoV, we are already establishing “no, you didn’t achieve victory during this dynasty”. And if Bucky hasn’t, who else has?

So this just adds unnecessary clutter to the ruleset.

Clucky: he/him

17-03-2021 01:01:59 UTC

realized I never against

Raven1207: he/they

17-03-2021 03:55:13 UTC

for